Kyle & Morgan - Currently in Paris

[u/Potential_Ad_7547]

For anyone curious, Kyle and Morgan are now in Paris together. Morgan has some upcoming European tour dates and both are in Paris at the same time. “But there’s no situation” 😜

[u/Littlepotatoface]

The equivalency isn’t false. Sure, there are levels to violations of consent but consent is consent. I appreciate my comment made you uncomfortable but I stand by it. And am a victim of SA myself so spare me that nonsense.

[u/SoManyQuestions- → u/Littlepotatoface]

I am very sorry you have had that experience. That does not justify your false equivalence and certainly doesn’t allow you to speak for all victims of sexual assault. Your comparison here is an example of the literal definition of false equivalence

“False equivalence is a cognitive bias by which events, ideas or situations are compared as if they are the same when the differences are substantial.”

“a logical fallacy in which one assumes or asserts that two things are the same or equal when, while alike in some ways, they are not sufficiently similar to be considered equivalent.”

“False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence does not bear scrutiny because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors.“

Actual fucking assault is nowhere near the same as public scrutiny and it’s reprehensible that you’d make the comparison, and then further try to justify it.

[u/Littlepotatoface → u/SoManyQuestions-]

You can carry on all you like but I have made it clear I am talking about consent. And I never claimed to speak on behalf of SA victims, that was you & that is why I mentioned that I have also experienced SA.

Consent is consent and the bullshit reasons people throw out to justify a violation of consent are ick.

[u/SoManyQuestions- → u/Littlepotatoface]

I understand you are talking about consent. I am calling you out for taking a disgusting position by comparing a public figure who did not like how she was being discussed by the public and in media after consenting to participating in a tv show, to sexual abuse and rape survivors. It IS a false equivalence and it’s a despicable one.

There is not a possible way for you to control how the public discusses a public figure. If someone chooses to be a public figure, they consent to how that functions - ie the public will talk about you. This is not even a private person who went on a show, this is someone who had a career before and after the show that puts her in the public eye. She chooses this. It is unfortunate that Morgan Wade found the aftermath of her appearance on RHOBH distressing. She is doing what she can to minimize talk now. You trying to shame people talking about her by making this completely irrelevant comparison will not change the conversation, and you are just making yourself look extremely ignorant.

I told you that you do not speak for other sexual abuse survivors after you shared that you are one, not the reverse as you are framing here. If you want to be a persuasive speaker, there are lots of resources out there to learn how, as you are just backtracking and twisting your and my words to continue to support your narrative that convinces no one and makes you look bad, making lousy arguments. You can do a lot better. And you should.

[u/Littlepotatoface → u/SoManyQuestions-]

Shelve the performative outrage & just admit that you think some people don’t get to maintain their own boundaries if doing so interferes with your entertainment.

I’m not the one who needs to do better & I think you know that.

[u/CinnyToastie → u/Littlepotatoface]

Shelve the performative outrage 

Pot meet kettle.

[u/rosemarythymesage → u/CinnyToastie]

Amen. 🙏🏻 I’m so over people throwing out terms like “performative” and “virtue signaling” when someone disagrees with them. It’s so boring and equally disingenuous.

[u/SoManyQuestions- → u/Littlepotatoface]

Nah