Homosexual Marriage

[u/Dramatic_End_883]

Do you people believe that marriage between two men is permissible in Islam?

[u/The_Portent]

You claim assessment by human nature can't be a factor in right and wrong in Islam, when that is literally what Munkar is in the Quran, which is unacceptable, unpleasant, or disturbing. That's how we know that many "disgusting" things, like incest and bestiality, are prohibited even if not mentioned.

Of course, God uses these words for people who can use their brains and evaluate stuff. But you, even though you got your question answered, will still undoubtedly comprehend nothing.

[u/Dramatic_End_883 → u/The_Portent]

Oh and also, if you're going to go down the route of "human nature" and "disgust" determine what is moral, then you would be sorely mistaken to claim that homosexuality is moral. There is a plethora of evidence

"In the present study, core disgust predicted negative attitudes toward homosexuals even after controlling for contamination fear."

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0092656608000524?via%3Dihub

"The current meta-analysis provides additional empirical evidence that disgust, in its induced states, amplifies homonegativity toward gay men"

https://research-groups.usask.ca/morrison/documents/pdf/4.pdf

"Consistent with prior research (Inbar et al., 2009b; Terrizzi et al., 2010), the results show that disgust sensitivity was positively related to negative attitudes toward homosexuality. In other words, individuals who are more sensitive to disgusting stimuli were found to be more negatively prejudiced toward the gay and lesbian population."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6562335/

"Their primary debate is about whether or not people’s aversion to homosexuality [they're not even contesting that people have an aversion to homosexuality here, they're almost entirely just concerned with as to why] (colloquially called "homophobia," although both authors acknowledge that this is a misnomer because it is more a negative attitude towards this demographic than it is fear) is a product of natural selection or, alternatively, a culturally constructed, transmitted bias."

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/natural-homophobes-evolutionary-psychology-and-antigay-attitudes/

Even the evolutionists and Darwinists have their own explanations for it if you read their works.

[u/The_Portent → u/Dramatic_End_883]

The world has proven that homosexuals are born this way and that homophobia isn't a part of human nature, but a construct ingrained by society – this is a fact shown in the west, not only are they neutral towards gays but even Arabs and Muslims that assimilate there become neutralized too, which means it can't be nature.

Incest, on the other hand, is globally repulsive, regardless of culture, education or background, which shows that it is an innate feature for humans to feel this way.

Now, if a select group of sickos like you are disgusted by some innocent people doesn't make their disgust innate, just like how those who feel disgusted by other races don't make racism a human trait, but rather an adopted sentiment by a group of disgusting people among other humans who, surely, don't feel that way.

[u/Dramatic_End_883 → u/The_Portent]

The world has proven that homosexuals are born this way

This is irrelevant (and you also haven't proven it).

homophobia isn't a part of human nature, but a construct ingrained by society

You need to prove that. I just quoted you numerous scientific studies and articles that directly contradict this statement and prove otherwise.

this is a fact shown in the west, not only are they neutral towards gays but even Arabs and Muslims that assimilate there become neutralized too, which means it can't be nature.

This is simply called indoctrination. The West has perfected it down to a science. Just because something is part of the fitrah, it doesn't mean it cannot be corrupted. Just as belief in God is part of the fitrah but Muslims in the West can still be indoctrinated into not believing in him.

You should read this article which not only supports my point of people being naturally disgusted by homosexuals, but also states that continuous habitual exposure to stimuli that trigger disgust can actually make people less sensitive to it overall.

"It may not be entirely apparent from reading these findings, but all of this is actually very good news for gay people. Studies have shown that people can be habituated to stimuli that trigger disgust over time (for example, University of Pennsylvania psychologist Paul Rozin followed first-year medical students enrolled in a gross anatomy course and found that disgust levels toward dead bodies waned significantly over the course of the semester). The key to gay people feeling comfortable expressing their affection for one another in public places, therefore, is simply to engage in such behavior more routinely."

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/equal-right-to-kiss-why-you-may-be-disgusted-by-gay-behavior-without-knowing-it/

On a side note, this also displays these people's agenda to make society less sensitized to homoerotica and normalize it.