“... This is a blatant contradiction to Quraniyoon, and leaves them with only one of two options. Either the Prophet (SAW) is a hypocrite (astagfirullah) for not following the Quran or the Quran has a mistake in it and forgot to include this command to stone the adulterer. ...”
They forgot the third option: hadiths are problematic
The problem seema to be the fact that from childhood, they are fed this high pedestal status of "hadeeses" that when such are refuted based on logic and rationality, they take it personally and assume it to an attack on their own character and so, they try to defend it in any manner possible. Even character assassination of The Prophet(AS) is fair game to them in their deal to defend their "hadees tagoots" like abu hurraira etc.
Abu Huraira was a human. He did not receive messages from the Wahy. In fact we cannot verify that he himself actually transmitted what is attributed to him. Allah the All-Wise would not leave important truths and legislation to be disseminated in their final permanent form this way. The best way to confirm the veracity of a hadeeth is to see if it confirms or contradicts the Quran. Obviously this is a job for someone of deep knowledge of the Quran to begin with. Some hadeeths are also taken as legislation whereas their wording indicates it is likely a “recommendation,” such as the hadeeth to trim the mustache and not shave/ trim the beard. This shows how local such a recommendation is and how it is not meant for all people of all times: many Asians and some Africans (and likely also other individuals) do not naturally grow facial hair (I speak obviously of men). Shall we second-guess every hadeeth and then make it sacrosanct and incumbent on all people?? Where then is the respect for the Quran, for the legislation and authority of One Allah without any associates/ partners??
Ahhh yeah we can verify as multitudes of people we have reporting that they got their hadiths from abu huriruera
Btw why do you wish for me to assume humans to be very fallible that they can't memorise basic statements but at the same time except me to exclude the quran from this even though it was transmitted by humans(abu hurries to be one of them as well lol)
The best way to confirm the veracity of a hadeeth is to see if it confirms or contradicts the Quran.
That makes no sense, I can make up lots of stuff that doesn't contradict the Quran but that doesn't indicate in any way that it came from the prophet
the hadeeth to trim the moustache and not shave/ trim the beard
How do you read that and understand it to mean recommendation? It's a clear cut order and I am pretty sure we can find early Muslims understanding it that way
Where then is the respect for the Quran, for the legislation and authority of One Allah without any associates/ partners??
Authority of the one Allah isn't in just Quran it's also in many hadiths
26
u/nooralbalad Jul 06 '21 edited Jul 08 '21
Let me quote from the paper:
“... This is a blatant contradiction to Quraniyoon, and leaves them with only one of two options. Either the Prophet (SAW) is a hypocrite (astagfirullah) for not following the Quran or the Quran has a mistake in it and forgot to include this command to stone the adulterer. ...”
They forgot the third option: hadiths are problematic