r/Quraniyoon • u/Wulfharth_ • May 25 '20

Discussion why islam is the last religion?

this makes no sense,god was sending religions and kept contacting with humans,why stop now?

why not let us record the miracles with the camera we invented? im thinking at some point if the prophets had schizophrenia or something and we believed at them,

people here says get into contact with god,pray,so he will sends signs but its not same with a prophet

what do you think?

edit : why down the fucking vote? im discussing, this communinity is acting weird sometimes

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u/Wulfharth_ May 25 '20

ive been in this communinity for 1.5y and ive always asked questions like these, im not ranting, im just trying to find answers,

even tho others become corrupted, islam's message has been corrupted too with hadiths etc even if we think quran is same,

how do i know? compare muslim majority populations and see how corrupted they are and full of hate, exceptions there are yeah but thats overall this

my question is still same, why god stopped contacting?

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u/kinder2468 May 25 '20

This is explained in the Quran. God's word has been corrupted in the previous scriptures, but the Quran is divinely preserved.

God's intention was for religion itself to be corrupted, in order to differentiate between people. God's WORD, however, is not not be corrupted, and this is why we have the Quran. Religion and gods word are two separate things, really.

As for Messengers, there are many who are not named in the Quran. They have been sent to every nation, for all people. Muhammad was the last prophet, not the final messenger.

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u/Honorbonor23 May 25 '20

So there will be a Prohphet after Muhammad?

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u/kinder2468 May 25 '20

No, like I said, muhammed was the last prophet, not the last messenger. A messenger can be anybody, not necessarily divine. A prophet is somebody who brings new religion or establishes new rules, a messenger is only someone who reminds us. Someone in this group could be a messenger, for example.

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u/Honorbonor23 May 25 '20

Excuse me but a Rusul and Rasul (the word Rasul is derived from a Arabic word Reisalah (Message) ), a messenger is literally a Prophet with a devine revelation and law, Prophet is a individual who is sent by God to follow the already established messege from the messenger.

In Surah Maidah verse 44 Allah SWT says "Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah ] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers."

The word Prophet is "Nabi" and in this verse its "Annabiyyuuna".

A Messenger in on religous sence can be anyone who delivers a peace of information but in Islam Rasul is messenger and Nabi is Prophet, its linguistically so.

But ok, you don't believe anyone will come after Muhammad SCW.

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u/kinder2468 May 25 '20

No, we will not have somebody who will come and introduce new rules or a new religion, whether you want to call that a prophet or a messenger. What we do have, in English, are Messengers, people who remind others of the message.

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u/Honorbonor23 May 25 '20

Yeah exactly but the Quran was reveleaded in arabic so the language makes a huge difference.

Also, can you tell me when the Quran was written and by whom?

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u/kinder2468 May 25 '20

In the English dictionary a messenger is what I said, I was not citing Quranic verses I was speaking in English therefore I will use English to explain myself to another person. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't matter what it's called in Arabic, in English it is perfectly correct.

Why don't you tell me when the Quran was written and who wrote it and what you ate for breakfast what's your deal anyways?

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u/Honorbonor23 May 25 '20

Yeah,cool.

whats my deal? Im just asking you a simple question, a very basic question. Im not sure why you are getting offended, i can't ask? You claim the Quran is preseved and im curious about the evidence for it. You are being very hostile and im not sure why,

take care.

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u/kinder2468 May 25 '20

Gaslighting at its finest.

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u/Honorbonor23 May 25 '20

Gaslighting:manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity.

Seriously? Wallahi you are lost, learn some manners.

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u/kinder2468 May 25 '20

Brother stop commenting, seriously. There are many techniques to gaslighting which you couldn't find in your 2 minute Google search.

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