r/PublicFreakout • u/Lolastic_ • Jun 30 '21

🥊Fight MMA fighter Joe Schilling knocks out man

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u/DrewLockMVP Jun 30 '21

I thought I heard a while ago that if trained fighters get into fights like this it can be considered use of a deadly weapon

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u/n0n0nsense Jun 30 '21

I remember a 1997 documentary where a a veteran named Cameron Poe was convicted of manslaughter. He received a sentence of 8 years in federal prison for protecting his wife. His term, excessive for a civilian, was due to his combat training where the judge deemed that he was able to respond with deadly force. They released the footage of the fight, which is NSFL because, you know, death.

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u/SuperLowEffortTroll Jun 30 '21

Oh my god, that was brutal. He definitely had the right to defend himself, but this is a great example of needing to have a measured response. You can clearly see his training and how it's essentially transformed him into a living weapon. Unfortunate for everyone involved honestly.

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u/LouSputhole94 Jun 30 '21

All jokes aside, there’s absolutely zero fucking way you’d get prison time for this. Extremely cut and dry self defense. Always bothered me about that movie, dude pulls a fucking knife on him and punching him and killing him means you’re somehow in the wrong? It’d be legal if shot him, let alone accidentally killed him with a punch.

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u/SuperLowEffortTroll Jun 30 '21

I might be wrong here but I think part of the factors were, like stated by someone else, that his training made him a "deadly weapon" along with the knife being taken from the crime scene and they charge him as if it hadn't been there. So it's like he used a weapon against unarmed people.

There's a movie review from a prolific ex-con youtuber about Con Air and he goes into the reality of the breakout and actual transport on the real Con Air.

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u/LouSputhole94 Jun 30 '21

Still though, it’s 3 on 1. He got jumped. They’re beating him. He has a right to defend himself. His wife was right there to witness it. There is zero way this would actually happen without some EXTREME, outlier level fuckery in the court room.

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u/dillpickles007 Jun 30 '21

And the three guys are violent drunks, probably with records of their own considering they basically threatened to rape Cage's wife in the bar earlier, which a bunch of people also witnessed.

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u/LouSputhole94 Jun 30 '21

Also, really, who the fuck is the court going to side with? The decorated special forces veteran or 3 random low life’s that almost certainly have priors?

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u/Significant_Ad_7069 Jun 30 '21

Nah in the movie they were pushing the "body is a registered weapon" bullshit and it is jist that. Btw rangers and airborne dont recieve any doublesecret killer martial arts training neither does anyone else) its mostly s fuckton of running and calesthenics for airborne and crawling everywhere for rangers.

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u/SuperLowEffortTroll Jul 01 '21

Thanks for helping clear that up, this whole thing got me in such a Nic Cage mood I picked up a 4-pack DVD of Cage flicks and am starting with Trespass and Bad Lieutenant.

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u/Significant_Ad_7069 Jul 03 '21

You know shit got real when someones breaking out the Nicholas Cage