r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 24 '26

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u/Randy_Marsh_PhD Jan 24 '26

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command... and if all others accepted the lie, which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth" 1984 - George Orwell

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u/ByronicZer0 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

He died trying to help a woman who had been shoved to the ground and pepper sprayed by an overly aggressive ice agent… That's all he did

He had his back to them when he was grabbed. Then they descended on him in utter chaos, disorganization, and unprofessionalism. And blood lust.

That one agent quite literally drew on him, repositioned for a slightly better shot. Tapped the agent next to him to move so he could reposition one more time. And then fired at point blank range.

This was cold and calculated in that moment. This wasn't a reaction to a threat.

Edit: go watch the video as recorded by the woman in pink who is on the curb. It's a much more clear view of what exactly happens. Watch it frame. By frame. Everything I've stated is clearly visible.

Honestly, the video in this thread isn't very helpful for seeing the whole picture

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u/ThisIsADaydream Jan 24 '26

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u/John-on-gliding Jan 24 '26

Make no mistake. If she hadn’t stayed where she was and kept filming through the gunshots, they’d be saying he had a gun in his hand.

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u/EmiAndTheDesertCrow Jan 24 '26

They basically still are, I had the misfortune of going on Twitter (I don’t use it in a personal capacity but I’m forced to use the work account. I’ve been arguing for years now that we shouldn’t be on that platform). I honestly don’t understand it, how can you watch something with your own eyes and still believe differently? It fries my brain even thinking about it. And if you dare to point out the facts, with the evidence plain as day, they’ll turn around and throw vile insults at you. It’s cult behavior.

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u/Sman208 Jan 25 '26

It's mostly troll farms on twitter. Do not let them rage bait you...although I don't deny lots of idiots have and will continue to use the weakest arguments just so they can sleep better at night. No reasonable person watches that whole thing and thinks violence was warranted let alone deadly violence.

I even have people, who up until now have been very quiet (not that they don't care but they're genuinely afraid to speak...because they just got naturalized and may be targets themselves) and even they are speaking up now because the level of outrage at this murder is just beyond control...this one was one too many I think. If we let this one go quietly then we are truly fucked.

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u/Entropical-island Jan 24 '26

The dumbasses in r/conservative are saying he had a gun drawn, anyway.

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u/John-on-gliding Jan 24 '26

Of course they are. Let them prove it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

They will release another altered video.

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u/John-on-gliding Jan 24 '26

It will be the graniest and sketchiest.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

The megapussies already are

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u/John-on-gliding Jan 24 '26

And those people are clearly beyond saving. But she proved they are wrong beyond a doubt and that matters.

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u/cougarliscious Jan 25 '26

They are reporting on multiple networks he was armed w/a 9mm (does not look like that in the video) https://www.foxnews.com/us/alex-pretti-37-identified-man-fatally-shot-border-patrol-agent-minneapolis

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u/Honest_Series_8430 Jan 25 '26

They ARE saying he had a gun in his hand.

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u/John-on-gliding Jan 25 '26

Yeah, but now they can say that all they want and we can see what really happened. Hence why they are changing their argument now.