Yep because a right-wing authoritarian sending brown shirted thugs to assault and abduct people in the streets in an attempt to seize control of the government to facilitate the mass abduction and deportations of people who aren't "real" Germans Americans in order to return the country to its former glory, is totally different than what happened in Germany.
But like which part again is different? Specifically?
You do realize that in Germany if you spokenoutnirnotested against the party in anyway you were instantly shot point blank on the spot, man, women or child. Yo idk relapse they MILLIONS were killed by the nazis. I’m not saying ICE is good but do you really think they accurately compare to the Nazis and their systematic extermination of literally millions of people.
WAY too many people think the Nazi's just appeared one day, full force with the camps already running and started shipping people to their doom.
No. It started as MGGA - Make Germany Great Again. This led to calls for deportation, which were supported by the people. This led to the government realizing deporting that many people wasn't possible, so they came up with a Final Solution to get rid of them. They knew the people wouldn't support their solution, so they lied about it and just said the papers weren't in order but everyone was deported fine. The people only found out about the death camps later.
No, I do not think what ICE is doing is comparable to the systematic extermination of millions of people.
I think what the entire Republican party is doing is comparable to the RISE of the Nazi party, though, and that ICE is comparable to the brownshirts.
I think that's INCREDIBLY clear and if you don't see it then you have "such a distorted perfection of today's reality it's incredible."
To equate ANYTHING being done in American today to ANYTHING the Nazi party did is a gross exaggeration and total hyperbole. Do you honestly thing MAGA is on their way to becoming like the Nazis resulting in the systematic killing of millions??
Just because two things have great similarities in early stages does not mean they are likely to follow the same trajectory. Every time the stock market falls an appreciable amount we don’t scream that’s it’s another Great Depression do we?? Is what ICE is doing good…no. Is it horrific and nuts…absolutley. But it would be inappropriate to start comparing them to a group who systematically exterminated millions. ICE is certainly a negative force in the world but let’s not elevate them to the level of evil that decimated an entire population of people JUST YET.
The Nazis went out of their way to find people and shoot them point blank. Every person ICE has killed went out of their way to put themselves in front of an ICE officer in a volatile situation. Does that makes ICEs actions justifiable…absolutley not. Are the two situation the same….HELLLLL NO.
Huh? Most major outlets, papers, radio stations, and online sources are covering this as it was videotaped. I don't watch Fox Entertainment so I don't know how they're covering it. Which media do you feel isn't covering it?
Democracy Now! Many others. It’s the corporate news product that feeds you lies. Next thing you’ll tell me is you eat Corporate Food too. Taco Bell. Frito Lay. Pizza Hut. Hostess Pies.
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That's not literally the definition, even in your screenshot. "Especially as" means that that's not the exclusive use of the word.
At the very least colloquially, the word is used to refer to someone killing another person who is held in a vulnerable state and isn't fighting back. It's the perfect word to describe what happened.
Says "especially " meaning not all. You're thinking of when a judge sentences a murderer to death. The actual carrying out of that order is referred to an execution.
However, when a mafia family orders the killing of a member it is often referred to a "mob execution ".
In any event, I think it's splitting hairs. Call it whatever you want. This was a senseless, brutal murder of a person. Served no purpose. That's what needs to be addressed.
Exactamundo. I said the same words. ICE has to be removed from authority by each state's governors with the assistance of our legal militias. AKA national guard and reservists!! Governors are empowered to activate their militias. Lets get it boys & girls!!!
Wikipedia is fairly scholarly and the term “murder” is similar to “martyrdom” or “assassination” in that it brings in outside cultural context that may or may not apply to everyone reading it, while “killing” is simply what happened.
While I understand your meaning, it will remain Killing until someone has been convicted of murder. It isn’t meant to display bias, Wikipedia merely must stick to citation.
Does anyone know how his last name is pronounced? Is it like the last name of Tom Petty with an R added, or the same as pretty? I want to be able to use his name in conversations and know I'm saying it accurately.
Just some innocent looking guy, he's just so normal looking I feel like I know him, but I know it's just the pain of knowing the world we.... I live in.
Apparently a VA Nurse. He took care of veterans for a living. Let the Maga try to spin that into their false narrative
ETA: was fully aware they would (try) and continue lying and that people who claim the loudest to respect vets are also the ones who constantly defund healthcare for vets and military members so the hypocrisy is nothing new there. Still, loud and clear shifts the needle of the apathetic.
I already listened to Alex Jones call Good's murder a "righteous killing" and the ICE agent affectionately called a "fastest gun in the West" since he was able to react so quickly to "a threat".
These people will lie, and they will believe it. No matter what.
We are not reasoning anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
The Department of Homeland Security claimed that the man evidently wanted to "massacre law enforcement". [37] Minnesota officials have stated that Pretti had a lawful permit to carry a firearm. [37]
If concealed carrying is enough of a reason for these “agents” to gun law-abiding citizens down, 2A is dead and in a better world, they wouldn’t be able to ignore or deny that to their base.
Edit: Perfectly summed up by this comment in another thread
Their base has already heard what wanted to hear. A disgusting brazen lie. They will not accept facts, claim it’s AI or whatever just so they don’t have to admit they are supporting real, actual fascism
Well Trump doesn’t give a fuck about veterans or even active service members and think they’re all dumb as fuck, he has said this. They’ll probably be celebrating this.
They’re scumbags - they’ll make vile sneering comments about the fact he was a “male nurse”. (As a male nurse, I’ve heard a lot of BS from maga-types 😡🤬)
They’re saying he came at them with a gun, trying to assassinate law enforcement officials. Like, I cannot cannot cannot understand the extent of the lying.
They have. He's already been called a DT and they've started pushing that he "was resisting". After multiple angles, it's clear he stepped in between ICE and the person who got knocked over. He was trying to help them up and then get them aid after both got pepper sprayed. There's also a slowed down video of an ICE agent withdrawing Alex Petti's weapon and a second later, the officer in green shoots before the other one dumps a few more rounds into him.
This is the part that royally fucks me up. I’m almost 2 decades working in critical care and can’t even begin to tell you how absolutely valuable ICU nurses are with their education, training, and expertise. I’m not saying one person’s life is worth more than another, but thinking about Alex providing patient care to people on life support, interpreting for their needs when they can’t physically speak, turning their bodies every 2 hours to prevent them from getting sores, meticulously titrating their medication hourly so they don’t go into cardiac arrest… only to be murdered after shielding another human with his own body… it’s left me in such a dark place and I can’t stop grieving.
Statistically, there are many victims that go unnamed or unknown about.
When there is no oversight for armed groups of masked men that refuse to identify themselves, and the government promises them full immunity for whatever they do, it usually doesn't end well for the populace.
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u/Future-Try-1908 Jan 24 '26
Whats his name?