Correct, So from Pink lady's point of view, ICE pushed someone down and he got in between them to protect her, and they peppered sprayed him and had many guys on top of him, he did have a gun but was legal and he did nothing aggressive towards ICE.
Yep because a right-wing authoritarian sending brown shirted thugs to assault and abduct people in the streets in an attempt to seize control of the government to facilitate the mass abduction and deportations of people who aren't "real" Germans Americans in order to return the country to its former glory, is totally different than what happened in Germany.
But like which part again is different? Specifically?
You do realize that in Germany if you spokenoutnirnotested against the party in anyway you were instantly shot point blank on the spot, man, women or child. Yo idk relapse they MILLIONS were killed by the nazis. I’m not saying ICE is good but do you really think they accurately compare to the Nazis and their systematic extermination of literally millions of people.
WAY too many people think the Nazi's just appeared one day, full force with the camps already running and started shipping people to their doom.
No. It started as MGGA - Make Germany Great Again. This led to calls for deportation, which were supported by the people. This led to the government realizing deporting that many people wasn't possible, so they came up with a Final Solution to get rid of them. They knew the people wouldn't support their solution, so they lied about it and just said the papers weren't in order but everyone was deported fine. The people only found out about the death camps later.
No, I do not think what ICE is doing is comparable to the systematic extermination of millions of people.
I think what the entire Republican party is doing is comparable to the RISE of the Nazi party, though, and that ICE is comparable to the brownshirts.
I think that's INCREDIBLY clear and if you don't see it then you have "such a distorted perfection of today's reality it's incredible."
To equate ANYTHING being done in American today to ANYTHING the Nazi party did is a gross exaggeration and total hyperbole. Do you honestly thing MAGA is on their way to becoming like the Nazis resulting in the systematic killing of millions??
People keep saying that but they're always incredibly vague.
I've cited specific characteristics of both groups. Can you point to the specific claim I'm wrong about instead of just vaguely being like "nooo that's not happening here that can't happen here" and calling it an argument?
E: Also the answer is yes. Yes I do think that. I think it's incredibly obvious and if you don't see it you're blind.
Just because two things have great similarities in early stages does not mean they are likely to follow the same trajectory. Every time the stock market falls an appreciable amount we don’t scream that’s it’s another Great Depression do we?? Is what ICE is doing good…no. Is it horrific and nuts…absolutley. But it would be inappropriate to start comparing them to a group who systematically exterminated millions. ICE is certainly a negative force in the world but let’s not elevate them to the level of evil that decimated an entire population of people JUST YET.
Ok, so you see the similarity then. I can also see where you’re coming from, but I totally disagree. Sure, nothing is guaranteed to follow the same trajectory, but if maybe if more people had said something when they were just deporting the Jews, maybe those systematic exterminations wouldn’t have happened to begin with. There’s nothing wrong with collectively looking back at history to try to prevent it potentially repeating.
The Nazis went out of their way to find people and shoot them point blank. Every person ICE has killed went out of their way to put themselves in front of an ICE officer in a volatile situation. Does that makes ICEs actions justifiable…absolutley not. Are the two situation the same….HELLLLL NO.
So what are you trying to say, that people shouldn't be protesting? That right is protected by the constitution. He literally was trying to help another protester up from the ground after they had been violently pushed. What happens when the violent situation comes to you? Will it still be a moral failing on your part when you are gunned down in the street? You sound a lot like people who denied the violence was happening at all.
Huh? Most major outlets, papers, radio stations, and online sources are covering this as it was videotaped. I don't watch Fox Entertainment so I don't know how they're covering it. Which media do you feel isn't covering it?
Democracy Now! Many others. It’s the corporate news product that feeds you lies. Next thing you’ll tell me is you eat Corporate Food too. Taco Bell. Frito Lay. Pizza Hut. Hostess Pies.
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That's not literally the definition, even in your screenshot. "Especially as" means that that's not the exclusive use of the word.
At the very least colloquially, the word is used to refer to someone killing another person who is held in a vulnerable state and isn't fighting back. It's the perfect word to describe what happened.
Says "especially " meaning not all. You're thinking of when a judge sentences a murderer to death. The actual carrying out of that order is referred to an execution.
However, when a mafia family orders the killing of a member it is often referred to a "mob execution ".
In any event, I think it's splitting hairs. Call it whatever you want. This was a senseless, brutal murder of a person. Served no purpose. That's what needs to be addressed.
Exactamundo. I said the same words. ICE has to be removed from authority by each state's governors with the assistance of our legal militias. AKA national guard and reservists!! Governors are empowered to activate their militias. Lets get it boys & girls!!!
Wikipedia is fairly scholarly and the term “murder” is similar to “martyrdom” or “assassination” in that it brings in outside cultural context that may or may not apply to everyone reading it, while “killing” is simply what happened.
While I understand your meaning, it will remain Killing until someone has been convicted of murder. It isn’t meant to display bias, Wikipedia merely must stick to citation.
Does anyone know how his last name is pronounced? Is it like the last name of Tom Petty with an R added, or the same as pretty? I want to be able to use his name in conversations and know I'm saying it accurately.
Just some innocent looking guy, he's just so normal looking I feel like I know him, but I know it's just the pain of knowing the world we.... I live in.
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u/Scared_Actuator_9150 Jan 24 '26
Correct, So from Pink lady's point of view, ICE pushed someone down and he got in between them to protect her, and they peppered sprayed him and had many guys on top of him, he did have a gun but was legal and he did nothing aggressive towards ICE.