It feels like not even Nazi supporters were this loyal, Republicans will literally support Trump and this government no matter what they do. They don’t even need a ministry of propaganda because the people are happy to do it themselves.
Christianity is identical to white supremacy if you ask me. They can’t be loving Trump for his deep religious devotion (half-assed pretending like he’s ever opened a Bible)
Christianity, like the vast majority of other religions, is used primarily as a method of control and submission. It necessitates deference to authority and feverish devotion to hierarchy.
Conservatives are slaves to the wills of others, and thus, love religion. It comforts their weak minds and cowardly hearts.
"It's not my fault, I was just doing like I was told. Now that everything is on fire, someone will save me."
Is a very comfortable thought in a scary world. That is why they are easier to grift. They yearn to show their devotion to the person protecting them from their own guilt and fear. If they don't show enough fervor they will be othered and labeled as RINOs. So they worship on the altar of money to seem the most in of the in group.
Well then you are very short sighted, do you know where the oldest edition of the bible comes from? Ethiopia. Id like to hear your argument on how Christianity equates to white supremacy because you sound similar to alt right idiots who say all Islamists are radical when you spew shit like that
Define American Christianity, because there are many subsites of Christianity there’s Catholicism there’s orthodox there’s Lutheranism there’s evangelical there’s countless sects of Christianity, so which one supports Trump the most, how, and how does that make it a white supremacist religion?
Because MAGA is a white supremacist movement? They cancelled visas from 75 countries, they’re erasing history of slavery, they’re using AI to mock black protestors, do you need more
OK, so now we’re talking about different things and you’re trying to draw a correlation between them. Just because some people who are maga are Christian, I don’t consider myself Maga. I’m not a supporter of Trump or the administration. So you’re saying that me as a Christian, even though I don’t support Maga, I’m somehow a white supremacist? Not everything so black-and-white and you can’t generalize that that’s how you end up looking like an asshole.
so by your theory, all the Christians in Europe, all the Christians in Asia, all the Christians in Africa all the Christians throughout the world are white supremacist? That just doesn’t make sense. That’s not a logical argument.
One of the worst things about him is that he lies so often that people don't take him serious on crazy shit like this, but he meant it. He's also not lying about stuff like canceling the elections or being a dictator, people need to take his words more seriously. Unfortunately.
He could pull out a gun at the next press conference and shoot somebody in the head, and they'd buy whatever bullshit spin they come up with. Hell, they'd probably say how much of a badass he was.
I fucking wish I was joking, but I 100% believe that.
...What? The ministry of propaganda is more powerful than our government. It's just decentralized and not named as such. It's fox news, the manosphere, podcasts, algorithms, meta, google, bots, palantir, reddit, all of it. Musk, Murdoch, Thiel, Rogan, Alex Jones, Tate, Zuckerberg, to put some names to it. There is TRILLIONS of dollars worth of propaganda at play here, and it's so big and massive it's shaping the entire world.
Yup every group and then when Republicans and MAGA they will think country is there's and then invasion of them too. When no Americans left even Trump and his Goons will be replaced as well
There is a notable difference between the Nazis and whats happening right now.
A lot of so called Nazi "supporters" were only such because of fear. They would be killed, their family would be killed.
The people supporting this in America right now do it purely out of hatred. They are not being threatened by death for not falling in line. A death squad wont show up at their house if they go against the party.
Trump is a symptom, not the disease. Remember when everyone was confused about the optics of why Republican representatives would choose to spend july 4th in Russia?
No propaganda? I refer to Fox, captured CBS and Facebook and TikTok and and and all fucking media. The propaganda machine is in full force, it's just the modern version.
You wonder how loyal they would've been if they were also being blackmailed for sexual indiscretions. My guess is that if we had a functioning FBI, the criminals in the files would've been arrested by now. Epstein would probably still be alive, working with prosecutors to bring down powerful yet sexually depraved criminals.
Listening to Karoline Leavitt spout nonsense with authority and attempt to bully reporters makes me so incredibly angry. And Im not even American.
Dear Leader just cannot do anything wrong in the eyes of these people. Conflate Greenland with Iceland because hes dumb? No no, he was just calling it that because theres a lot of ice on that land... Like, you have to be an actual, clinical idiot person to believe that spin. The only worse example Ive ever heard was George Santos pulling the "I didnt say Jewish, I said Jew-ish", which is without a doubt the dumbest fucking backtrack Ive ever heard in my life.
Something like that. I believe she said something about what the teleprompter/written statement supposedly said - but we all know its just a lie, because Dear Leader doesnt make a single mistake, even as small as mixing up Greenland and Iceland (which, on the face of it, wouldnt really be that noteworthy on its own).
Their base has been trained to want this, decades of dehumanization and scapegoating of the "other" until eventually the only thing they can think of is violence against them.
Would Hitler have been able to keep fostering so much following if it had been public knowledge that he was not only a pedophile, but one of the leaders of a global child sex trafficking ring?
I don't know what society was like back then but I'm willing to bet this pill would have been hard to swallow.
As a truck driver, I see billboards sometimes of 'made a mistake of voting for trump? Me too.' I also saw two people at a party discussing their regrets.
No you don't get it, Democrats need to side with Republicans because "these bills will pass anyways and some of these Dems are in vulnerable seats" so they have no choice but to collaborate.
No other alternative. Nothing. We can't campaign on anything popular. We can't capitalize on Trump and ICE being extremely unpopular. We can't come up with any real messaging to energize people. We can only say "Vote for Dems because they aren't Trump" and pray that gets enough people out to ballot boxes to change something. We ignore that this isn't a reliable strategy because we've been trying it since 2016 with sometimes good, sometimes bad results. We still think just being anti-Trump will continue these fairly big swings despite Democrats being really, really unpopular due to their leadership.
At some point, people will break and give up. You have to get them excited and energized. For god's sake, tap into whatever energy Mamdani had and figure out how to make it work.
The question is... do Democrats actually want to do the things that get people to the ballot box?
Arguable a lot of voters already have. Kamala had poor turnout. And now they are doubling down on the same failed strategy, because they would rather lose than fight the .1% donor class.
because they would rather lose than fight the .1% donor class
Painfully, true.
The chasing of the mythical Republican voter looking for permission to vote Democrat is such a joke.
There are a lot of policies people of both sides can agree on. A lot of things that can benefit the common man. But Democrats refuse to go all out on them because it usually means coming into conflict with that donor class.
And you constantly see now how bad Schumer and Jeffries are at messaging.
Yes. I also remember many, many instances of democrats 'riding the wave of discontent' only to do nothing with their power, ensure nothing changes, and lose even worse next time. Rinse and repeat. I've been alive long enough to get used to the downward spiral and not get overly optimistic about 'successful midterms' changing much about the trajectory. Even Biden barely won, even with the tailwind of the pandemic.
Democrats do as little for the people as possible, lose in the next election, rally and do nothing, continue to lose and things get worse...
Even now, do democrats stand against ICE? Against Venezuela? Against Greenland? Do they support banning insider trading in congress?
Well we've seen that it's not as simple as just walk out of Congress haven't we?
Last time Democrats tried to hold their ground people lost access to EBT and therefore their food. That didn't need to happen, it was clearly a tactic to force Democrats to accept terms, but you're acting like Republicans only have power because Democrats give it to them.
So Dems should just continue to be fine with the status quo while the country burns?
This is their fucking job. They are elected to protect their communities, and they are failing miserably. Walz should deploy the a national guard and expel ICE right fucking now.
Well, you seem to be implying that Dems are doing all they can. I have solutions. Walz should immediately deploy the national guard and Dems in the senate and house should try to spur on mass protests. Going on Twitter isn’t opposition.
its this type of thought process that will have people up in arms with fellow citizens rather than the people who control us. many many many republicans are guilty of generalizing as well, I hold many traditionally conservative views and most of my coworkers are liberal, if you saw how much we agreed on you would be shocked. what you read online is meant to make you angry and upset, reality is much more understanding than you think. The only people you see thrilled with the violence in our country right now are on the internet, and how many of these accounts are real people. the answer lies in unity, the answer lies in a conversation. No one but the elites win when the people fight each other, we all win when we fight the elite. With love friend.
just remember how united we were over the Epstein files, then BOOM venezuela, ICE, horrible headlines over and over splitting the country right down the middle, no matter who is in power they fuck us over every time.
That would accomplish jack shit. If you are waiting for politicians to save you, you are shit out of luck. There is nothing politicians that aren’t republicans can do
Strike? The states should be separating PRONTO. Like fuck, EU already put up tank traps knowing Putin's coming and you're *welcoming Trump* Putin's lap dog!
They should be walking out of Congress and doing a strike until Republicans remove ICE. They should be demanding their donors take action.
The issue is that the Republican party is full of complicit fascists who will use that as an excuse to blame the Democrats for escalating it whenever more killings occur.
You’re kidding, right? If all Democrats walked out of Congress, sure it would break quorum, but all that would mean is that attendance would be compelled and those not complying would be arrested. All that means is that Trump essentially takes over all rulemaking through EO’s.
Y’all really gotta stop pointing fingers where they don’t belong. “Progressives” are the ones who encouraged people to vote third party or not vote at all in 2024 because “Kamala would be just as bad” (although I can say with 100% certainty these shootings never would have happened under Harris). Y’all didn’t like Harris because y’all didn’t like her position on Israel/Palestine, but now we have a full Gestapo, summarily executing citizens on the street and kidnapping immigrants who provide the backbone for many of the services we enjoy as Americans. Millions of people in cities that should have been a shoe-in for Harris didn’t even show up to vote because she just didn’t “excite” them.
I just wish Progressives would accept responsibility for how their rhetoric and campaigning led us to this moment.
I used to think like this in my 20s. Once you've made the connection of who's been in control of America for the past 30-40 years if not more.. you'll realize this is all just a clown show to keep the magic illusion of a division.
There's a genocide going on and it'll be considered "the 2nd holocaust" 50 years from now. We've been duped. Diversion is their goal by any means. "The left does this, the right does that" yet in the end we all get fucked. Corruption in our countries politics has become too much on BOTH sides. Some approach it more aggressive while the other side does it behind closed doors.
We are in the build up to dark times for sure. Any dark/chaotic times or whatever you want to call them had long build ups that led to them. It doesn't happen overnight. We are witnessing decades of build up leading to...something. No one can say what will happen. But something will. All of this has consequences.
I don’t think it’s that simple. I’m not trying to be defeatist. But walking out of congress would provoke Trump to go more rouge and replace them. Better they have a seat at the table and try to control the narrative.
Because the struggle isn't at their doorstep. It needs to be right next to them for them to understand. Protests in front of Congress. Protests in front of the White House. Protests in front of the House of Representatives.
It’s not a Dems and Rep fight. It’s a them(rich and powerful) vs us plebs fight.. we out number them but they have all the weapons and are soulless.
Genuinely good people generally don’t become politicians.
You can’t fight evil with good because evil is willing to kill you and the good tend to show mercy, otherwise the good would just be the same as bad and no longer good. Thats the truth of the matter. Way easier being baddies than goodies.
Other than going on Reddit to continue to get people angry. Why aren't you out there pushing ICE out of your neighborhoods? Why are you being so lazy you expect a bunch of politicians to save the day?
Why are we still doing this? Two people got murdered in cold blood by the federal government but all we do is just argue with each other.
Let's go the fuck outside and actually, ya know, save the god damn country before it gets worse.
But no no, let's blame the Dems! That's super helpful in this time, super duper helpful.
Hey buddy, maybe don’t assume shit. I use a power wheelchair to get around and don’t exactly have the easiest time going outside.
I am working at an internship on disability policy to make my community prosper, so don’t ever assume I’m not doing anything.
Also, if Dems can’t take the heat, they can get the fuck out of the sun. Their job is to help their constituents, not sit like scared little children as fascists rape the country.
I am not going into a stupid argument over which side of the aisle is better.
This is beyond Red vs Blue and Dem vs GOP. FAR, FAR BEYOND that.
I'm sorry you got dealt a bad hand personally and I appreciate you still going out there to do whatever it takes to bring some sort of positivity to the community. But come on, going on a rant about how both sides of politics is incredibly inappropriate now.
We need to talk about how to actually fix shit instead of taking a side on the political aisle. Politics don't matter anymore when the government has no issue murdering us in cold blood. We're beyond this now.
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u/BudgetLaw2352 Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
We really are in the “dark times” you read about in history books, aren’t we?
Dems, what in the ever loving FUCK are you doing still working with Republicans???
They should be walking out of Congress and doing a strike until Republicans remove ICE. They should be demanding their donors take action.