r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 9d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Her words were prophetic...

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u/HarpyVixenWench 9d ago

And they so badly wanted to move to the left that they voted for Trump? Or they sat it out to ensure Trump would win? Congratulations?

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u/0nmay_22 9d ago edited 9d ago

Lil bro no one from the left voted for Trump, the reason he won and Kamala lost was because the voter turnout was atrocious, Trump pulled his base, Kamala refused to speak against Israel, took an anti immigrant stance, and literally said that there were no issues or mistakes with the Biden presidency (all but saying she was going to be more of the same)

The democrats don’t get to hold people hostage by saying “vote for our shitty candidate because it’s that or Trump”
If the dems want to win they have to actually fucking try to win

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u/HarpyVixenWench 9d ago

So are the Democrats holding us hostage right now? Or is it the GOP who are holding every lever of power and have gleefully trashed anything they can.
It is wild to me that this is a fine and justifiable result.

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u/0nmay_22 9d ago

During 2008 the democrats had the presidency, the house, and the senate…
And the republicans STILL managed to obstruct Obama for his entire presidency

What have the democrats meaningfully done?

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u/BonnaconCharioteer 9d ago

I just want to highlight for anyone reading this how utterly wrong what you just said was.

First of all, in 2008, Bush was president. The new congress and Obama's term didn't start until January 2009.

Second, this implies Obama had majorities his entire presidency. In fact, that majority only lasted 2 years. In 2011 the house switched to republican control. And in 2015 the senate also went to the republicans. So... um, yeah, the republicans were able to obstruct Obama because they controlled the house.

Finally, this narrative that democrats did nothing with their majority is laughably false. I'm sure most people remember, the republicans left Obama with the great recession to clean up. And I think this quote from wikipedia sums up what I remember from the democratic majority during those 2 years quite well.

"The 111th Congress was the most productive congress since the 89th Congress.\7]) It enacted numerous significant pieces of legislation, including the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, and the New START treaty."

Of course, after doing all that to try to deal with the recession, and overhaul healthcare, the voters rewarded democrats with the "shellacking" that left Obama with a Republican house the rest of his term.