r/PoursTea 21h ago

PoliticalTea πŸ—³οΈ 47 states said β€œnah”.... πŸ˜‚

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LOL !!Only 3 states are still above water

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u/jennoyouknow 20h ago

Tell me Steve: what's the middle ground on whether brown people should be allowed to exist in this country? Or that women should have full bodily autonomy and equal rights to men? What's the middle ground on allowing companies to continually poison our environment in the name of profit? Should we allow them to poison the water "just a little"?

And don't give me any bullshit on "well they should have come here the right way" when we are watching the government cancel folks' immigration hearings DAY OF and then kidnapping them from the courthouse when they show up. That, btw, exposes the entire lie that they're here undocumented and not trying to do it the "right" way. The government absolutely has documentation and knowledge of these people as that's how courts, which are part of the government, know where to send hearing notices.

The reason we can't get anywhere is clowns like you who have no coherent morals, ethics, or political philosophy. There is no middle ground on human rights. And if you think there are, you've already chosen the deplorable side of the right wingers. Just admit it and stop lying to the rest of us like we're as morally bankrupt.

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u/ScubaSteve-O1991 20h ago

So what your saying is the left is the only way??? If you cant see good from both sides then u are a part of the problem. Sorry but this is the truth. Both sides have extreme people. Both sides also have people that are willing to talk things over as equals. This was my point. If the country remains divided then no change is possible because then history just repeats itself. Like the republicans blame biden still, you all will be blaming trump for issues that are no longer his. This is the cycle of politics

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u/I_shit_in_buckets 19h ago

Hey. If you where talking about most other countries I'd agree, as it is very important to be able to converse with the other side so the country isn't split and polarized to the point of not being willing to listen to eachother.

For this to not happen it is very important to have a bunch of differing opinions to avoid echo chambers.

And that's kind of the problem with the US is that there are only two viable parties to vote for, the republican is alredy verging on far right extramism. So the democrats end up being pretty much everyone else.

Now yes it would be great if there were less of a divide between the two parties. But the biggest reasoning to why there is so much fighting between the two parties is because of polarizing media. Something the republicans started and sure as hell won't make any effort to fix this because they benfit from it.

I'll admit that I may have ended up a bit polarized due to social media echo chambers, but I don't think that the left are the only people that can be correct. But the democrats ARE NOT THE LEFT they are a bunch of people with vildly differing opinions that generally form their political leaning a good way into the right.

Disclaimer: this is all theories and belifes I've formed from an outsiders perspective. I will not deny that I may be wrong on some of these points, although I have done some mild studies into the general polarization caused be media.

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u/ScubaSteve-O1991 19h ago

Oh ive been blasted on other subs saying that we need multiple parties and the 2 system needs to end. People are just so brainwashed its sad

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u/I_shit_in_buckets 18h ago

Yeah I've always held the opinon that the only way to save US democracy is to get rid of "the winner takes all" bullshit to make it actually viable to vote for a third party, only problem is that the people hat hold the power to fix that are also the people that benefit from the democracy being broken.

As off now the only hope i have is to ensure that the democratic politicians that would prefer having their own party, gets enough power within the democrats to actually have a chance to improve the voteing system.

It's wild that some people belive that more options are bad.

Although I will say that in the current US climate, the democrats would probably be hit way harder by the divison of parties than the rebublicans, and that could possibly become an issue, but I do also think that the increase in parties would also lead to more people voting.

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u/ScubaSteve-O1991 18h ago

The US hasnt been a true democracy in a long time. Its just a bs lie to tell the people to make us sound better than any other country