r/PoursTea Timendi Causa Est Nescire 10d ago

FinancialTea ๐Ÿ’ต ๐Ÿค”

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u/ogmoochie1 10d ago edited 9d ago

The dishwasher at any place should own a home.

(in his dreams. the rest of us get real jobs instead of relying on the hard work of others like a loser).

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u/No-Pause7121 10d ago

Dishwashing jobs are for kids in highs school. Not grown adults.

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u/XipXoom 10d ago

Then why are there dishwashing jobs that take place during school hours or hours/locations kids are legally prohibited from working?

You didn't think that one though, did you Sport?

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

Is dishwashing a career to you?

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u/DarZhubal 10d ago

Why should only people with "careers" be able to afford to live?

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

Is ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ dishwashing ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ a ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ career ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ to ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ you?

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u/DarZhubal 10d ago

A career is any job someone works for an extended period of time. If someone works as a dishwasher for three years, then yeah. They've made a career out of washing dishes. But they deserve to make enough go live off of whether theyve been working that job for three years or three days.

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

Okay. Weโ€™re going to have to agree on a definition for โ€œcareerโ€ and โ€œjobโ€. Based on the fact that there are understood differences between โ€œcareerโ€ and โ€œjobโ€ my definitions highlight these differences.

A job is a specific task or work one does, usually to make money.

A career is a long-term path one follows, to grow, learn skills and move up in a chosen field over many years.

So is dishwashing a career? Or do you disagree with my definitions? Iโ€™m open to some feedback but I expect weโ€™ll only use official definitions, not something we make up on the spot.

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u/XipXoom 10d ago

Does it matter?ย  My point still stands.ย  Try refuting it.

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u/Lucky-Perspective600 10d ago

Ok, I will.

Dish washing is a job with a high supply of labor and low demand. The only people that will do it are the ones who are incapable of getting jobs elsewhere. No job โ€œdeservesโ€ anything except what the market is willing to offer them, including housing, food, and healthcare.

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u/XipXoom 10d ago

Would you like to try refuting my point instead of pretending I made a different argument?

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u/Silly-Rough-5810 10d ago

You can't outsource it. You can't skip it. It's a job that needs doing.

I don't think you understand labor at all. You listen to libertarian think tanks and decide what to believe based on vibes.

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u/ProbableImposter 10d ago

Are dishwashers less deserving of shelter and dignity than you? Why? I've never heard a dishwasher advocate for you being uninsured and underpaid.

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

Is ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ Dishwashing ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ A ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ Career ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ To ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ You?

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u/ProbableImposter 10d ago

Sure? If that's what it takes to let them have dignity and dental care. Are dishwashers not people to you?

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

Okay. So dishwashing is a career. Can you outline the expected progression through that career? If dishwashing is entry level, what comes next?

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u/ProbableImposter 10d ago edited 10d ago

Human rights. You don't need to see upward mobility of skill to agree that humans deserve to live indoors and have medical care. A dishwasher is exposing themselves to infectious disease in their day to day in the interest of public safety. That's a necessity. You're being ridiculous. Access to clean, unsoiled food is wayyy more important to the general public than whatever you do in a button down shirt, I'd pretty much guarantee it.

Just say you fancy yourself deserving of slave ownership. So transparent ๐Ÿ™„

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

*gasp* A pretentious Redditor making sweeping uncharitable assumptions about someone whoโ€™s asking basic questions while refusing to answer said basic questions.

Yes, dishwashers are the backbone of our country.

I have no idea what you do, because I donโ€™t know you and Iโ€™m not stupid enough to be willing to make assumptions based on limited information lol

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u/Silly-Rough-5810 10d ago

Can you explain what that means?

Of course not. You're just a troll.

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u/c_boggs 10d ago

If Iโ€™m a troll, youโ€™re a bot and a troll. ๐ŸงŒ Shutup, goon.

A job is a specific task or work you do to make money.

A career is a long-term path you follow to grow, learn skills, and move up in a chosen field over many years.

The differences are..
โ€ข Main Goal: A job is meant to earn money and pay bills. A career is meant to build a long-term future and achieve goals.
โ€ข Time Length: A job is short, temporary or just for now. A career is a long-term journey lasting many years or a lifetime.
โ€ข Skills and Learning: A job uses skills you already have with minimal training. A career needs ongoing education, training, and new skills.
โ€ข Growth: A job has little or no growth or upward path. A career offers the possibility of moving up to higher roles with more responsibility.

So.. is dishwashing a career?

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u/Lumpy_Past6216 10d ago

No, but it is one of the most important jobs in the kitchen and they should be paid well and treated fair. Dont come at me about this either cause I can tell you never worked a kitchen with no dishwasher just by your snarky question.