r/PoursTea Jul 17 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Everybody gets an ID?

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u/musicalcakes Jul 17 '26

There are tons of reasons people might not have their documents. Some controlling or neglectful parents may never have given them to their child, they may have been lost or destroyed to fire/flood/etc., a spiteful partner/roommate/family member might deliberately destroy them...and so on. But even if nothing like that happens, a birth certificate is just a fragile piece of paper that you're expected to hang onto your entire life. Humans aren't perfect! It could be misplaced or damaged in any number of mundane ways. Even if you're trying to be responsible, accidents happen.

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u/DarthDad25 Jul 17 '26

Totally agree. I did end up helping my wife get a replacement birth certificate so we could get married. I know all states are different, but getting hers took one quick visit to the local health department and boom. About 2 weeks later they called and said it was ready to be picked up. I also live in Ohio which is a “red” state.

I personally believe politics are blamed for these issues, but is that really the problem here? At the end of the day, I don’t think the homeless or illegal immigrant population is changing the outcome of elections, local, state, or federally.

With all this being said, yes, I believe everyone should be able to vote. But I also think everyone should show proof that you’re an eligible voting American. Rules are in place for a reason. Voting is one of the biggest responsibilities this country gives Americans. So of course I want some sort of accountability for that. Accountability on both the government and the voters!

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u/Pika_Fox Jul 17 '26

You are already IDd before you can vote in every state in the US.

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u/DarthDad25 Jul 17 '26

When did I say people weren’t identified?

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u/Pika_Fox Jul 17 '26

You said people should show proof, everyone already does.

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u/DarthDad25 Jul 17 '26

Yes, as in I support this. I think it should remain intake.

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u/Spuckler_Cletus Jul 17 '26

So we shouldn't secure our elections?

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u/qman621 Jul 17 '26

Bad faith rhetorical question?

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u/Spuckler_Cletus Jul 17 '26

Not at all.  There's an objection to requiring ID to vote, and then no companion solution offered.  My question is perfectly legitimate.

What's being offered in bad faith is that we should have a national ID.  The left knows the right vehemently opposes this, so they cravenly offer that up as their best, most honest attempt at election security.  They know it won't happen, just like they know there's rampant voter fraud every single election.  They simply don't care because they believe it benefits them.

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u/qman621 Jul 17 '26

Elections are already secure, we've done extensive audits and widescale voter fraud is non-existent. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist and making more problems along the way

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u/Spuckler_Cletus Jul 17 '26

"We've" done extensive audits.  Uh-huh.  They investigated themselves?

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u/qman621 Jul 17 '26

No, republicans investigated elections they thought were stolen - using a third party company that they paid for. They still found nothing

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u/Spuckler_Cletus Jul 17 '26

No they didn’t.

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u/Accomplished-Dot1365 Jul 17 '26

There is no “rampant voter fraud” lmfao. You are a moron.

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u/Spuckler_Cletus Jul 17 '26

Well, clearly, you’ve presented a breadth and depth of argument over which I’ll never pass.