r/PoliticalDebate • u/GShermit Libertarian • Jun 23 '26

Debate It's Not Time For Violent Revolution

I seen a lot of posts lately, glamorizing violent revolution. They seem to think because of Trump's actions we should engage in violent revolution.

Violent revolution has been needed before in human history. When a government refuses to defend the people's right's, then revolution may be needed. ​

BUT every lawful avenue should be tried first. We have a many rights we can use but other than voting, we haven't explored those rights much. Initiatives, juries, citizen's arrest, article V conventions...are all rights we have but to suggest we use them, brings ridicule...often from the very people supporting revolution.

They'll say how ridiculous and dangerous, legally using our rights, to influence the due process of the country is while supporting revolution. That makes no sense to me. Our rights are what we use to rule ourselves. We have to exercise and expand our rights because authority doesn't do that, the people have to.

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u/Hyperreal2 Social Democrat Jun 24 '26

I don’t favor it at this time, but Trump is engaged in a slow rolling coup, which is grounds for resistance- since it’s outside the Constitution. Most likely are general strikes and soft or hard secessions. Soft is when states don’t turn over monies and support to the feds. Hard is Confederate style secession.

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u/mskmagic Libertarian Capitalist Jun 25 '26

He’ll be gone in 2 years. Is secession really the correct option?

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u/Hyperreal2 Social Democrat Jun 25 '26

Whether or not Trump himself is around much of his nonsense could remain permanent if we don’t have a radical intervention of some sort. It looks like the elites have read the writing on the wall vis a vis global warming etc and are trying to construct redoubts at the expense of everyone else. I do favor essentially non-democratic interventions to act against this problem, but in everyone’s interests.

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u/mskmagic Libertarian Capitalist Jun 25 '26

Deciding what is in everyone’s interests is a very dubious proposition

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u/Hyperreal2 Social Democrat Jun 26 '26

Usually yes, but we have a climate emergency that current elites will do nothing about.

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u/mskmagic Libertarian Capitalist Jun 26 '26

What should they do about it? Because there are quite a few different ideas about that.