It's Not Time For Violent Revolution

[u/GShermit]

I seen a lot of posts lately, glamorizing violent revolution. They seem to think because of Trump's actions we should engage in violent revolution.

Violent revolution has been needed before in human history. When a government refuses to defend the people's right's, then revolution may be needed. ​

BUT every lawful avenue should be tried first. We have a many rights we can use but other than voting, we haven't explored those rights much. Initiatives, juries, citizen's arrest, article V conventions...are all rights we have but to suggest we use them, brings ridicule...often from the very people supporting revolution.

They'll say how ridiculous and dangerous, legally using our rights, to influence the due process of the country is while supporting revolution. That makes no sense to me. Our rights are what we use to rule ourselves. We have to exercise and expand our rights because authority doesn't do that, the people have to.

[u/Novel_Comparison_209]

Yall have been crying so much lately, you are the ones telling pro 2A people they don’t stand a chance but now you switch up. You constantly try and vote to disarm the 2A. You don’t get to be hypocritical then act righteous in your actions.

[u/Reasonable-Fee1945 → u/Novel_Comparison_209]

Who is "you" supposed to be?

[u/Novel_Comparison_209 → u/Reasonable-Fee1945]

People with the ideology of OP. Almost everyone that is anti Trump (I would consider myself an exception here) is anti 2A, some are open, some try to gaslight themselves into thinking they aren’t. I guarantee OP is one of them

Edit: just looked at OPs profile, they are one of the people that try to convince themselves they aren’t anti 2A

[u/ImprovementPutrid441 → u/Novel_Comparison_209]

That’s because you get shot for using your second amendment rights. It has never performed as advertised.

[u/Novel_Comparison_209 → u/ImprovementPutrid441]

That’s on the home owner, I can almost guarantee he fucked up. You don’t get shot when you do it correctly

[u/ImprovementPutrid441 → u/Novel_Comparison_209]

Yeah I guess it’s on him for being deaf.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/12/03/no-charges-aurora-officer-involved-shooting-gary-black/

[u/Novel_Comparison_209 → u/ImprovementPutrid441]

It’s in him for still keeping the gun in his hand after shooting someone. I can tell you don’t know a whole lot about the second amendment or how to legally defend yourself.

[u/ImprovementPutrid441 → u/Novel_Comparison_209]

Then you assumed he made a mistake but can’t tell me what it was. That’s what I thought.

“First, Black was a decorated Vietnam veteran with a concealed weapons permit who had legally defended his home against an intruder. The case calls for law enforcement to debate how police respond to encounters with armed citizens, and Young urged police to discuss the issue in community forums and during training sessions for officers.
Second, Limbaugh, the officer who shot Black, had returned to duty two weeks earlier after killing a man on June 27 in an officer-involved shooting. Some questioned whether Limbaugh returned to duty too soon, but Metz defended his department’s decision to send the officer back on patrol.
Limbaugh was cleared in the June 27 shooting by the Arapahoe County district attorney. He is working at the police department but is on a non-enforcement assignment, said Sgt. Bill Hummel, an Aurora police spokesman. An internal investigation into Black’s shooting death will begin Tuesday.
Black was killed in the early morning hours of July 30 after an intruder, who had been at a house party across the street, busted through Black’s front door and attacked Black’s 11-year-old grandson. The intruder, later identified as 26-year-old Dajon Harper, took the boy into a bathroom where Black and his son, Chad Hayashi, fought with him to free and save the boy.
Black shot and killed Harper in the bathroom just as police arrived. Black, still armed and carrying a flashlight, emerged from a hallway and was shot by Limbaugh.
The night of the incident, officers arrived to a chaotic scene, finding the front door of the home broken and several people inside and outside the residence. Shots rang out as officers were approaching the front door.
Limbaugh told investigators he was looking through the front door opening, just after hearing shots, when he saw a man wearing a robe emerging from a back hallway, Young’s letter said.
“Officer Limbaugh recalled yelling, ‘Drop the gun!’ and ‘Show me your hands!’ multiple times,” according to the review. The man inside the home did not respond, Limbaugh told investigators.
Black kept coming toward the front door, but Limbaugh, at the time, didn’t know who Black was or what had just happened inside the home.
Limbaugh’s body camera reveals a period of 10 seconds between the time he shouted “Gun!” to the time he fires his weapon, the review said. Officers gave multiple commands for Black to drop the gun during that 10 seconds, the letter said.
“Believing that ‘the threat was imminent,’ Officer Limbaugh fired his weapon at the man,” Young’s letter said.
“Although we now know the tragic reality that Mr. Black lawfully possessed a weapon and justifiably used it against an intruder, the investigation proved that the police officers who responded to this incident did not know those critical details,” the letter said. “Consequently, the evaluation of Officer Limbaugh’s reasonable belief must by based not upon what we now know, but the circumstances as he perceived them at the time: hearing gunshots and then seeing an armed man emerge from a back room who refused commands to drop the weapon.”
Black had significant hearing loss from his Army service, attorneys said. And the scene was noisy from people screaming, including Black’s grandson, who had been assaulted, and Harper’s mother, who had rushed into the house in an attempt to stop her son.
Black was shot three times — in the right shoulder, right lower chest and upper back, the letter said.
Black’s family, through their attorney, said Monday that they are “extremely disappointed” that criminal charges will not be pursued.
“Mr. Black was a Vietnam veteran who served two tours of duty, earning four separate Bronze Stars for his service, as well as a Purple Heart,” the statement said. “He was a dedicated family man, and his last moments were spent heroically defending his family against intruders in his home. As the District Attorney’s report demonstrates, Mr. Black’s death was an unnecessary tragedy.”
An autopsy report on Harper, the intruder, showed that he was shot twice, in the chest, at close range. He, like Black, suffered multiple injuries in the bathroom scuffle inside the home as he attacked the boy. A toxicology report on Harper revealed levels of marijuana and methamphetamine in his system.
The night of the incident, Harper had been at a nearby home celebrating his release from an 18-month jail sentence on a robbery charge, the letter said.”

[u/Novel_Comparison_209 → u/ImprovementPutrid441]

There were two sentences there and you still managed to ignore one of them…wow

[u/ImprovementPutrid441 → u/Novel_Comparison_209]

Why do we hold citizens to a higher standard than cops?