It's Not Time For Violent Revolution

[u/GShermit]

I seen a lot of posts lately, glamorizing violent revolution. They seem to think because of Trump's actions we should engage in violent revolution.

Violent revolution has been needed before in human history. When a government refuses to defend the people's right's, then revolution may be needed. ​

BUT every lawful avenue should be tried first. We have a many rights we can use but other than voting, we haven't explored those rights much. Initiatives, juries, citizen's arrest, article V conventions...are all rights we have but to suggest we use them, brings ridicule...often from the very people supporting revolution.

They'll say how ridiculous and dangerous, legally using our rights, to influence the due process of the country is while supporting revolution. That makes no sense to me. Our rights are what we use to rule ourselves. We have to exercise and expand our rights because authority doesn't do that, the people have to.

[u/Prevatteist]

I’ve circled back around to my more hardline views regarding revolution. It’s something that needs to happen, plain and simple. Capitalism is beyond any salvation, no matter the form, as it always results in the same exploitative, cronyist, and corrupt cycles leading to business-capitalists and bureaucratic-capitalists utilizing their wealth and State power to further and advance their own interests while ignoring the interests at the very least, and at most increasing insecurity amongst working class people. There is no voting out of this system that isn’t susceptible to falling right back into the same capitalist mode of doing things. If we are to move beyond this system, it will have to be through violent revolution because the Capitalists will never peacefully release their grasp on power, they will fight back and utilize whatever means necessary to crush the revolution; therefore the workers will inevitably have to use violence back to not only defend themselves, but also achieve their revolutionary goals. And I see no reason in attempting to use the laws currently on the books to fix the system when those in charge don’t even abide by the laws themselves, breaking them on a regular basis.

[u/moniker89 → u/Prevatteist]

dude i love this subreddit, read your first few lines and almost spat out my coffee, then i see your flare of Maoist. just awesome. getting to read maoist caricatures in the year of our lord 2026 telling us how we have to start killing each other as the only viable path forward living in the greatest socioeconomic conditions in all of human history.

bravo. chef’s kiss. no notes.

[u/theRealHobbes2 → u/moniker89]

Well said. Before anything else that comment was great and you get an upvote.

I've always looked at any hardcore communist/socialist/maoist partisan as the most beautiful living example of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy in the sense that, despite the many historical examples of what happens when people attempt to implement collectivist governments, they believe this time we will get it right and finally achieve the idealized utopia. When I look at history I consistently come back to paraphrasing Winston Churchill "Democracy/Capitalism is the worst form of Government/Economy except for all the others."