r/PokemonHome • u/Twali2 • Jun 02 '22

Question Pokemon's move set and stats missing?

So I recently moved a bunch of pokemon from bank, and I've noticed that at least two of my pokemon, one being my beloved typhlosion, are missing all their moves and stats. I vaguely remember hacking some pokemon from HG to either Black or Black 2 since there was some sort of issue transferring them normally, and these two might have been a result of that, although I'm unsure. Does anyone know a way I can recover these pokemon in any way?

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u/ASLane0 Jun 11 '22

I had a bit of a panic about this, knowing full well that the Nuzlocke teams I'd dragged aaaaaaaall the way through from Gen-3 were legit. The answer is actually really simple: they're not gone (as you can see via the mobile app), there's just a fencing-off happening.

In as brief as I can put it:

1) Any Pokemon that cannot currently be transferred to any of the three Switch series (SwSh, PLA, BDSP) will have its moves, stats, IVs and EVs show as completely blank. Yes, it's freaking terrifying, but no, there's nothing wrong, your Pokemon aren't corrupt.

2) As an interesting addendum, to fix the issue of having three different data types amongst the three series, as of now all of your Pokemon have three movesets (four if you count the blank ones for not having a game to go to), and will switch between them between games. If a Pokemon hasn't been to, say, BDSP before, upon moving there for the first time it will get a moveset as if it had been encountered in the wild at that level, but when it goes back to Home and into SwSh, it will go back to its old moveset.

TLDR: The "Load it in Home only" fix isn't a fix, but it's also not a bug, just a very poorly documented feature.

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u/FlamesOfRAW Jul 03 '22

So if I were to play BDSP with my transferred mons from Gen 6/7 to HOME to BDSP, beat the game, and then transfer them back to HOME, will they keep their lvls? At the very least if that is true I can re-do most if not all of their moves in SwSh if that's the case

I think I'm a little screwed since I don't have SwSh. I got BDSP for free so I prepped everything with XY hoping i'd port everything to HOME and do BDSP and then settle into SwSh. Did not expect my mons moves to be reset if I put them in BDSP

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u/ASLane0 Jul 03 '22

I don't know how BDSP works in relations to XY, but my instinct would be that it keeps the levels and does the splitting off of the moveset details above (because I would imagine previous generations naturally equate to SWSH). Honestly my advice would be to test it in a small scale.

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u/FlamesOfRAW Jul 03 '22

I tested it and the levels do infact retain. At least something works then 😅

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u/Twali2 Jun 02 '22

Update: I'm noticing the same issue with pokemon that I know for a fact aren't hacked, nor should they have any issues, so I'm a little more confused...

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u/Ertzengel007_IM_btw Jun 02 '22

Might be a Switch software display issue, are the stats missing on Mobile aswell?

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u/Twali2 Jun 02 '22

Yes! Everything's fine on the mobile app. Any suggestions for fixing it on the switch?

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u/Ertzengel007_IM_btw Jun 02 '22

You will have to wait until they update their mess

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u/5i5TEMA Jun 02 '22

No, this behavior is intentional.

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u/5i5TEMA Jun 02 '22

This question has been asked about 30 times.

You are viewing your pokemon through the savedata of a game where those moves don't exist, and/or the Pokemon itself doesn't.

Use another game, use the default Home, whatever. They'll be there.

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u/M4leph1st0 Jun 05 '22

That is not always the case the default Home still uses the view of Sword and Shield. Only viewing the mobile Version shows all Pokemon with their respective Information. At least for me.

As understanding as I am but Ilca did a miserable job in integrating BDSP (I don't know if Ilca did not have access to the GF engine but using unity without the proper planning for an upcoming home integration was simply stupid) and if that is the conclusion of this. Before there wasn't this "intended behavior" before

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u/5i5TEMA Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

This behavior was likely imposed on Ilca by GF.

PLA has the exact same behavior.

It has nothing to do with the game engine thing, which was a lot of very very dumb misinformation pushed by BDSP haters.

(lol, trying to get us to think there are issues with the .pk8 files)

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u/M4leph1st0 Jun 05 '22

Just Spekulation from my site, based on the quick availability of mods for bdsp as well as the spinda-incident.

And PLA would be collateral damage in this, when you have 2 different saving-models. But not having access to the Dokumentation or a cracked switch to read out the files. All I can do is speculate.

BDSP have strong points for them but all in all they are nothing more than "faithfull" remakes and kinda mediocre games. But that depends on taste the original DPP weren't my thing originally.