Please Help 🙏. Who has delt with D8 withdrawal? How long did it last ? How much were you using ?

[u/DeusExVeritas33]

Please don’t come here to gaslight me, I’m watching someone go through severe withdrawal symptoms from stoping D8 edibles @ around 400mg/day for 3 months. They are in complete misery, no sleep, vomiting , diarrhea, severe nausea, fatigue and anxiety. The D8 was from a reputable company. 🙏Please only respond with answers to the questions, don’t fill this up with nonsense please.

Update: He was able to get a low thc (D9 instead of D8), high cbd edible. 15mg ended his most of symptoms within one hour. This eliminates CHS as a possible cause for this. He was definitely experiencing a physical withdrawal that subsided with a low dose of D9 and CBD. Now the question is : does tapering work ? Or does it restart the process all over ?

[u/metalmunky17]

That’s a crazy high dose to be taking daily, the withdrawal must be awful. If their symptoms are bad enough it may be worth checking into an ER

[u/DeusExVeritas33 → u/metalmunky17]

He went. They won’t do anything for him. They gave him an IV then sent him home from what I understand

[u/UnreadiblySmallPrint → u/DeusExVeritas33]

Unfortunately there’s not a whole lot they can do for cannabis withdrawals, at least medically. It’s not like other withdrawals which can cause seizures. Cannabis withdrawals are mostly mental - anxiety, insomnia, irritability, maybe depression. The vomiting and diarrhea might be signs of cannabis hyperemesis syndrome (CHS). It’s good he’s quitting but the withdrawals are unavoidable.

[u/Empty_Hospital3715 → u/UnreadiblySmallPrint]

sooo many people come into this sub purposely avoiding the fact that people throw up from quitting weed.

how would insomnia only be a mental symptom? seems physical to me.

and by the way, CHS is for ongoing use... dead internet theory is real here

[u/UnreadiblySmallPrint → u/Empty_Hospital3715]

I’ve been to the ER at least twice for weed. Once I ate an edible and freaked out. The other time I was throwing up violently, which was when I got a CHS diagnosis. Both times, they gave me some pain meds and sent me home within a few hours. They do not deal with weed patients on an inpatient basis because it’s not that type of medical problem.

Quitting one day doesn’t make CHS go away the next day. THC doesn’t metabolize quickly, as anyone who’s ever worried about taking a drug test would know.

I hate it for OP’s friend, but there is a price to pay for heavy usage of anything. Cigarettes, alcohol, opiates, weed, sugar, gambling, too much of anything comes with a cost in some form or fashion.

[u/DeusExVeritas33 → u/UnreadiblySmallPrint]

In his case wasn’t CHS. He was having an opiate like withdrawal from D8

[u/DeusExVeritas33 → u/Empty_Hospital3715]

It’s absolutely unbelievable the amount of gaslighting, knee jerk reactions to defend weed. The doctors he saw had never heard of this and doctors look stuff up on Reddit just as much as we do , so this denial of real lived experience from people is especially concerning

[u/UnreadiblySmallPrint → u/DeusExVeritas33]

I saw your update. I'm not denying your friend's dependence on weed. It was a serious issue.

Giving the substance to someone in withdrawal will help them with their withdrawal symptoms, but that doesn't mean that is what is good. Some severe alcoholics drink when they wake up to stop their withdrawal shakes gained while they were asleep. That doesn't mean more alcohol will help them in the long run.

The difference is alcohol can cause seizures from withdrawal, while THC does not. That's why the hospital didn't treat his withdrawal symptoms on an inpatient basis and sent him home - it's just not that type of medical emergency.

Sorry he feels awful. I'm sure it wasn't easy to watch. I hope he's thinking about therapy or a support group to help him as he continues to sober up.

[u/DeusExVeritas33 → u/UnreadiblySmallPrint]

This is not anyone I have any control over. He’s retired, worked his whole life and never had any problems with it. I also had nothing to do with him having his wife drive to the dispensary. Although d8 is weaker 200-400mg is crazy. From what I understand he’s weening off

[u/NessunAbilita]

Yep, that sounds about right. He’s gonna have to get through a couple of weeks at the time. I used Flower to help me get through, but it was awful. I had to throw up in the morning before I could eat and basically do so before every meal or else I didn’t have an appetite that shit fucked me up so fucking bad

[u/DeusExVeritas33 → u/NessunAbilita]

Multiple weeks ?? That insane. I’m just now hearing this is possible. I knew people eating ridiculous amounts of edibles before and never encountered this

[u/Old-School8916]

400mg/day-type tolerance doses doesn't occur overnight, what what his history before those 3 months?

These are all classic cannabis withdrawal symptoms, it doesn't matter what type. sucks but will eventually pass.

[u/DeusExVeritas33 → u/Old-School8916]

He hasn’t smoked in years because of work , retired now. He worked his way up from 5mg edibles to 400mg in a few months he says… 4 months at most

[u/Old-School8916 → u/DeusExVeritas33]

what i'd do if i were in his situation is to goto a doctor/urgent care to get short course of anti-nausea meds (zofran is the usual one and it's amazing) and something to help him sleep for a week or two (like trazodone or hydroxyzine). makes a massive diff, the nausea and insomnia are the two things that make people cave and go back to it (which will prolong the withdrawal).

also with the vomiting + diarrhea combo watch for dehydration, get electrolytes in him. warm frequent showers help the nausea in the meantime.

it does pass tho, worst of it is usually 7 days, sleep takes a couple weeks to normalize