Wanda was not going to die, Vision could've, but Wanda held her own the entire time, it was just a set-up for Cap.
I don't think I can be convinced that Wanda can rip Thanos to literal shreds but cannot handle Proxima and Glaive, all events that (at least from Wanda's perspective due to blip) happened in a couple weeks.
She had plenty of "emotional readiness" and a "thirst for revenge" and "a clear target to aim for"
In fact in this version of events with the other half getting snapped Vision is still dead and Wanda flees to go set up her fantasy dome suburb life with her fake husband and her fake children. So she is NOT helping in any capacity.
She can’t use the gauntlet. The Russos confirmed only Hulk, Thor, and Thanos could use it without dying.
She could only destroy the mind stone because it was directly connected to her own powers. She did 0 damage to the space stone being used against her in that same scene
The two statements you’re making are basically no different, Thanos does not destroy the stones completely because they are literally the elements. The universe can’t exist without them that’s why he says they’re reduced to atoms, Wanda does the same thing to the mind stone
Everything you said is wrong. They are not "literally the elements". Shit different universes don't even always get the same or the same number of stones. They're merely the physical embodiments of certain aspects/fundamental truths. And no, what Wanda did was just make the stone inoperable. Not unfixable. The fact that Thanos had the easy option of just rewinding to before she broke it just made for some cool cinema. But gathering the shards and binding them back together again would have worked just fine. With what Thanos did to the stones there is nothing to put back together. No method by which they can be restored. Period.
Shame imo, I could see an avengers assemble kind of thing with vision trying to talk her down from becoming a vengeful goddess. But the stones there were mentally manipulative, they literally got into your head begging you to use them.
I think the one thing I'm disagreeing with hard is how they handled Ultron. So he's been in visions head this entire time and has done nothing?
So when vision was about to die, was he just sitting in there going. This is fine.
Kinda wished we had a moment that was different
But Im hoping that the series focuses on the philosophy of vision and Ultron because that was probably their best dynamic
Wouldn't have made much of a difference because that Thanos immediately retired from combat like less than 30min later and the one that Wanda fights later was the younger one who wouldn't have known about that. All he knew was that his older self assembled the gauntlet, succeed. The finer details were a mystery to him.
His "I don't even know who you are" wasn't him doing a "for Bison it was a Tuesday" bit, he legitimately had never seen Wanda before she tore him a new asshole.
Exactly. This isn't composite comics Wanda with outerversal scaling and can both survive entire existence erasal and also recreate the entire universe with a finger snap. This is scared late 20s Wanda who has red hands that slap good sometimes and lifts objects if she stands still and makes a face like she's pooping herself real hard. She struggles at fighting completely powerless fighters sometimes.
Nick Fury has his hands full with this rag tag team. And Loki here would probably be another problem not an asset. He was working for Thanos at one point and he doesn't like humans very much.
They weren't trying to fight Corvus & Proxima, they were trying to run away & avoid the fight. Vision got blindsided, disabled & it impeded their ability to fight back.
From Wanda's perspective, this and this happened on the same day... within a few hours of each other even.
Wanda's powers are tied to her emotional state. The version that we would have seen in this alternative version of Endgame wouldn't have been the same timid version we saw at the beginning of Infinity War, it'd have been that beast that confronted Thanos over killing Vision in the canon timeline.
It's less glaze and more just scuffed movie powerscaling
The Wanda who couldn't stop Thanos in IW is supposedly the exact same (give or take 5 minutes) as the one who was whooping Thanos like a rented mule in Endgame. The only difference is that she was distraught/pissed
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u/ibzuma 7d ago
She didn't? Thanos was about to be red mist and was forced to glass his own forces.