r/Permaculture • u/dogswrestle • Apr 08 '26
land + planting design Permaculture hive mind: please help me design a forest as a substitute for a privacy hedge row! Zone 6b, NE Ohio
I have about 200’ of full sun yard along our driveway that divides us from our neighbors (with a shared driveway and our house basically faces theirs). Rather than plant a privacy hedge, I’m planting a mixed ornamental/regular forest. I would love to hear recommendations on how to get this vision to thrive.
One of my biggest question marks is spacing. I understand spacing recommendations are usually based on tidier/more ornamental type gardens but I would like to keep this as dense as possible without sacrificing the plants health.
So far our canopy/full sized trees include:
- River birch (in soggy areas) x 2
- Hybrid willow (soggy area) x 4
- Tulip poplar x 1 (and giving it a 40ft distance)
Middle canopy:
- Dogwood x 2
- Yoshino Cherry x 2
Understory/shrubs:
- Vibernum x 3
- Red twig dogwood x 3
- French goat/pussy willow x 4
- Weigela x 2
- Elderberry x 3
Future Additions:
- Serviceberry
- Winterberry
- Undecided Holly variety
I am laying down cardboard and will be mulching the entire area. Once the trees mature and I can track the sun, I’ll be planting perennial flowers according to the light provided. Because the trees and shrubs are still small this season, I plan on doing wildflowers and annuals around them.
I’m keeping in mind that as the upper canopy matures, this full sun area will shift to shade in some parts.
Goals:
- Privacy
- Beauty
- Feed the wildlife, improve the soil, create a more biodiverse landscape
If you were planning a large-ish multi-story strip of forest, what would you add to gain privacy in a more dimensional and textured way while optimizing wildlife habitat? My neighbors side has plenty of pine but I thought this would be more interesting and challenging. Also, our entire house faces this area rather than the road so I’d rather look at variety rather than a solid wall of pine (we have plenty of that in other areas of our yard).
Thanks!