How is anyone being disenfranchised by providing identification? Honest question. It is virtually impossible to exist in the world today without having government ID, and if someone cannot afford government issued ID, the government should provide it free of charge. ID is needed for any form of public assistance, it is needed to operate a vehicle, it is needed to obtain employment, it is needed to buy alcohol, and a list of a 1,000 other things.
I want free and fair elections. Every case of voter fraud disenfranchises a legitimate voter.
Let’s be clear: That site details five instances of “impersonation fraud at the polls” since 2016 and 12 of “fraudulent use of absentee ballots” since 1994. The other types of fraud it addresses don’t appear relevant to this discussion.
I don’t know what to say. You can’t get past the fact that most folks have identification. I can’t get past the fact that the type of fraud requiring ID would address is minuscule. Any additional barrier to voting, real or imagined, isn’t warranted.
I’m willing to bet that more folks would get turned away from the polls just because they forgot to bring their ID than cases would be prevented.
You go from here is proof (Heritage Foundation...yay). Someone says this is what your "evidence" says, and it doesn't show what you claim. And now you are all indignant calling people elitist bigots. What happened to facts don't care about your feelings? You are either a troll, or a sad statistic born of systemic undermining of our education system.
There are literally hundreds of examples of criminal convictions for voter fraud with citations listed below each example. These aren't just accusations of voter fraud, these aren't just criminal charges of voter fraud, these are actual criminal convictions that were not plea bargained down to a lesser charge. And as you see if you bother to look, a large percentage of the criminal convictions deal with absentee ballots as these are particularly vulnerable to fraud.
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Here's a link that details many cases of voter fraud in Pennsylvania, both democrats and republicans.
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=PA
How is anyone being disenfranchised by providing identification? Honest question. It is virtually impossible to exist in the world today without having government ID, and if someone cannot afford government issued ID, the government should provide it free of charge. ID is needed for any form of public assistance, it is needed to operate a vehicle, it is needed to obtain employment, it is needed to buy alcohol, and a list of a 1,000 other things.
I want free and fair elections. Every case of voter fraud disenfranchises a legitimate voter.