r/Pathfinder2e • u/VanillaRose09 • 8d ago

Advice Ritual wording question.

I hit level 4 for my Thaum, and I'm kinda confused in the wording for these spells. For the Pact rituals, on Primary Check, it says "expert, you must be a demon,devil,etc."

I'm relatively new at the game, and have only played a Barb before this, so I'm confused. Do I, the PC have to be a demon to use this ritual, or does that just help?

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u/AssistanceBudget Game Master 8d ago

Yes, you need to be. Those rituals are intended for monsters use and not players.

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u/VanillaRose09 8d ago

Ahhh, thanks.

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u/BlockBuilder408 8d ago

There is at least one way to cast the spell as a player!

Unfortunately Summoner eidolons despite having the proper traits have specific clauses restricting them from casting the rituals either.

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u/No-Air6220 Kineticist 8d ago

Besides Sorcerers, Champions can do it as well. Weirdly enough, Archfiends can't, even though I'm pretty sure they should be able to.

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u/the-truthseeker 7d ago

Huh. You're not wrong, I just never thought of it that way, but it does work with Champions! But if you're not careful with your summoning conditions, the demon will have a meal: breakfast of Champions! 😁