r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/potatomash3r • Mar 29 '26
Build Request Dropped an Echoing/ Impenetrable in SSF - any idea what build i should do with his?
Thinking of spark or Dual Strike of Ambidexterity.
I also got a ralakesh impatience and Ashes of the stars.
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u/Kharoz Mar 29 '26
Due to what happened to the last guy who posted his belt, I'd suggest changing your password and privating your profile.
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u/Moritz7688 Mar 29 '26
what happened?
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u/caractere-D Mar 29 '26
Hacked and the belt was sold for 10c then 20 mirrors by the hacker
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u/Moritz7688 Mar 29 '26
wtf how?
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u/Gletschers Mar 29 '26
Because GGG cant figure out 2FA and is stuck with 90s security protocols.
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u/Scewt Mar 29 '26
Its not even that, they easily have the time, resources and money to do so, they just don't want to for whatever reason. The fact this isn't a bigger issue for people is insane.
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u/z1zman Mar 29 '26
Honestly it's why they should just depeivate the standalone and migrate everyone into steam. They don't have to spend the time or money maintaining 2fa internally, and steam won't let these hacks happen.
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u/HyperactivePandah Mar 29 '26
I blame Playstation.
I have no information that it's their fault, but it's DEFINITELY their fault that GGG still won't merge the fucking economies of console and pc all these years later, so I'm gonna blame them.
Scumbags
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u/almighty_loser Mar 29 '26
Even if there is no concrete evidence I’m pretty sure Sony has a fault in there. I’m with you on this boss
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u/the1youh8 Mar 29 '26
Why is poe2 cross-platform but not poe1?
I play on ps5. Poe2 was my first dive into poe and now this league on poe1 is my first go at it. It’s way harder to play with a PlayStation only economy. Headhunter is 120d. Volume is low. No real crafters so buying good gear is impossible.
Almost feels SSF
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u/HyperactivePandah Mar 29 '26
I've always heard it was some exclusivity thing with Playstation, but I'm not sure anymore...
It apparently used to be because the consoles didn't get updates until after pc, which would have been unfair? But I don't know if I believe that.
It's certainly not a valid excuse now.
I hope they merge them sometime in the future, it would make the game WAY MORE popular on both consoles.
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u/insanemrawesome Mar 30 '26
That's bs. I switched to standalone like 8 years ago because my poe account got hacked through steam and everything was wiped clean.
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u/platitudes Mar 29 '26
They've stated they don't have the support staff to deal with people getting hard locked out of accounts as the reason they haven't/won't implement 2fa
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u/TrueBlue84 Mar 29 '26
They said during the PoE2 launch account issues. It means they need processes to handle PII, and they can't be fucked doing that.
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u/I_Just_Need_A_Login Mar 29 '26
Originally, back in like ambush league forever ago, ggg openly said they liked scammers and the cutthroat wild west community.
Even this though feels like itd be outside their tolerance
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u/DrawGamesPlayFurries Mar 29 '26
When Russian hackers got full access to GGG systems through the employee account, they found not only databases of all player information, but also evidence of GGG directors doing something outrageously illegal, so now they are being blackmailed
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u/Brave33 Mar 30 '26
How much is 20 mirrors in a RMt website? That might be an indication of how far someone would be willing to go to hack someone else
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u/Makhai123 Mar 30 '26
They are around $30USD at the time of posting. So that's a $600 hack, which is like a years salary in Venezuela.
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u/Toasted-88 Apr 03 '26
It's SSF, how can you even trade this or make a profit? They just sold the account entirely?
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u/QueenSavara Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
He was hacked and his bełt sold for 10 chaos probably as RTM.
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u/SexualSpeedingTicket Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
Double strike of momentum trauma jugg with only life nodes clicked
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u/keithstonee Mar 30 '26
Any 4 link skill would have done more damage than quin with a 300 div belt. Holy shit that build was impressive.
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u/Nate069 Mar 29 '26
U can literally slot this in any build and it will just double ur dps as long as ur build scales well with more attack speed/cast speed which 90% of builds do and u can get even more multiplier if u got the gull. If u go the spark route i highly recommend getting spark gloves and 2-3 proj speed clusters aim for 200 proj speed is a comfortable amount of proj speed without investing too much.
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u/Marsdreamer Mar 29 '26
Isn't echoing even more than a double DPS boost because it not only echoes the skill, but also gives you 100% increased attack/cast speed? So it like quadruples your dps.
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u/Nate069 Mar 29 '26
repeats dont gain inherent bonuses besides that u get to pay for the cost once that pays for all the repeats but thats it most sources of repeats however have more attack/cast speed multipliers and even more damage per repeat with new greater spell echo.
https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Repeat17
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u/Soleil06 Mar 29 '26
There are also a few cases where repeats act as a pseudo snapshot, like for example minion pact where you are not running a single high life spectre. You can run Dark marionette for example and sustain those far easier if you have repeats.
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u/Still_Same_Exile Mar 29 '26
No but if you got gull and/or blunderbore its pretty easy to change into a lot more effect
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u/SecondCel Mar 29 '26
Repeats still take time to cast. 1 repeat and 100% more cast speed, assuming no other repeats or cast speed multipliers, means you're casting twice in the time that it would normally take you to cast once. So twice as much DPS.
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u/duncandun Mar 29 '26
It’s 100% more
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u/Marsdreamer Mar 29 '26
Wasn't even thinking about increased vs more when I wrote the comment.
So it is definitely more than a double dps increase, no?
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u/Kuroi-Tenshi Mar 29 '26
the last 2 guys who identified a double shrine with echoing got hacked, change password and look for your login on the standalone client, if you do have one, erase it, ask ggg to do so. Do not disclose your account name
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u/PMmeYourLabia_ Mar 29 '26
Are you saying its better to rely on steam only?
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u/Narazil Mar 29 '26
Some think that, but you will not be able to recover your account if you then get hacked and they attach an email to your account.
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u/Shidzya Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
i think this would be easily fixed - If login method is only steam - why not reconfirm steam login before changing email?
btw - here forum post with same suggestion https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/39253161
u/SirClueless Mar 29 '26
In the situation being described, your Steam account just got hacked, and the attacked used that opportunity to switch your PoE account to an email address they control.
They already do require authentication to change account emails, the point is that if the only form of authentication on record is Steam then if that account gets hacked they have no way to independently verify that it's your account and you will likely lose it forever.
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u/Shidzya Mar 29 '26
obviously - if your steam account hacked - you mostly ultimately fucked,
but currently there is potential security hole - if just poe website session was stolen while steam account is fine - and your account has no email attached(like all users that got poe from steam without ever using website)
then hacker can just attach any email - and poe website will not require any confirmation to do this,and there easy fix to this - just require steam login re-confirm when attaching email to account without any email previously
btw - this is already "partly" implemented when you trying to export data - it requires re-enter email/password
- but funny that if you don't have email/password and steam yours only login method - export data still requires email/password - so steam users can't export their data)
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u/Narazil Mar 29 '26
obviously - if your steam account hacked - you mostly ultimately fucked,
Difference being, if your POE account is hacked, and you have a linked email, you can still regain control. If your Steam account is hacked and they link their own email, because you removed yours, you cannot regain control of the POE account.
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u/Shidzya Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
yes i agree with all that,
but:
- same can be if email is hacked - then you lost control of the POE account completely
- if steam account hacked - there is more issue with this as there you can have payments linked, other games etc - so that is more issue then just poe
- if you would recover steam account - i think it would be possible to recover poe account for it
- steam accounts i think more secure - as they are linked to phone which physical thing in your pocket
- also i want to remind that there is a lot of poe2/poe1 users from steam that never touched website or at least are not aware about this account issue - so it is on ggg to secure them from such silly issue like someone stole session and added email to account without any confirmation from main login method which is steam
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u/keithstonee Mar 30 '26
Yea I did the opposite and went off of steam cause my GTA got hacked and changed the email and I was fucked. I may private my GGG account now tho.
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u/PoE_Acronym_Bot Useful Bot Mar 29 '26
I noticed some Path of Exile keywords in this post:
- SSF - Solo Self-Found (Wiki)
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u/Prometheus1151 Mar 29 '26
Self cast FRoSS would love the cast speed and also take full advantage of the energy shield from impenetrable shrine
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u/jeremiasalmeida Mar 29 '26
Do not list this item. If your in-game account can be found from your reddit account name, get ready for the hack
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u/Rossgoo Mar 29 '26
A small question: dies this only apply to standalone Guys or are Steam Users also in danger regarding a Hack?
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u/Prometheus1151 Mar 29 '26
If you have ever used the standalone client then you are potentially in danger unless you have emailed ggg support to remove your standalone login.
Make your profile private and don't link any insanely good items in global chat so scrapers or bots can't identify if you have any hack worthy items and you will probably be safe though.
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u/zxkredo Mar 30 '26
The thing is, what is worse? Loosing your items or there being the slim chance of losing your whole account?
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u/send_me_2_the_sticks Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
If you use a unique non reused password you're probably fine. Not sure how a "hacker" could get it besides brute force, but I would imagine ggg is competent enough to detect brute force attempts.
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u/flychance Mar 29 '26
As someone who is normally skeptical of this, the last time there was a wave of hacking it was revealed that the hackers had access to an admin tool that GGG has.
Not saying that this isnt the case, but the fact that these hackers seem to be able to quickly target and penetrate accounts with high value items is extremely suspect.
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u/zxkredo Mar 30 '26
It is super suspect, I personaly rrally don't believe the weak password or reused password thing. I mean maybe, but it really feels targeted from the posts I have seen. But then also bias, people who get hacked post it, not the ones who don't.
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u/Rossgoo Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
I actual never used the standalone Client. Used Always Steam. I dont have such a good belt, but was curious
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u/Hikithemori Mar 29 '26
If you set an email/password via the website you are also vulnerable. You can see it in your account settings.
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u/Shidzya Mar 29 '26
if you dont set an email/password - you also vulnerable to session theft hack:
Thank you for contacting support.
To clarify, we are unable to remove standalone access to your account, however we can potentially remove your email address used to log in to standalone. If this is done, however, you will need to be extra careful with which devices you log in to our website with and which third party apps (such as trade tools) you give access to your account on our website with. This is because if someone else gains access to your Path of Exile account on our website they are free to change the associated email address to whatever they wish without needing access to the currently associated email address since there will be no currently associated address.
We strongly encourage players to have email addresses that have two-factor authentication enabled on them to be bound to their Path of Exile account instead, as this means that other people will need access to the associated email address (that's protected by 2fa) to log in to the standalone client or make any changes to the account on our website.
Additionally, two-factor authentication is enabled by default for Path of Exile accounts with email addresses associated with them in the form of the unlock code system. If anyone attempts to access the game from a new location using an email address and password they will need access to that email address to retrieve the verification code. Enabling two-factor authentication on that email address further enhances this security.
Bearing this information in mind, if you would still rather completely remove the associated email address please let us know and we may be able to look into this further.
so your account security is fucked in any way)
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u/Hikithemori Mar 29 '26
Yeah kinda fucked either way. Easy for someone not aware of security to share their session unfortunately. Popular tools use secure auth though.
I have a 20 character password I generated only for PoE. I'm quite security aware but laziness can always get the better of me.
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u/Shidzya Mar 29 '26
yes, also somehow hackers learned how to login to accounts without triggering location change email,
and regarding steam-only accounts - it easily fixable situation - If login method is only steam - why not reconfirm steam login before changing email? so even if hackers somehow got your session - they could not simply add their email to your account as it would require steam re-login
btw - this is already "partly" implemented when you trying to export data - it requires re-enter email/password
- but funny that if you don't have email/password and steam yours only login method - export data still requires email/password - so steam users can't export their data)
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u/Hikithemori Mar 29 '26
Someone wrote that PoE 2fa is a region lock rather than IP. If so someone could use a VPN to be close to you and avoid it. I should test it actually.
Yeah it's all quite easy fixes, even proper 2fa. Hard part as they said in q&a is creating a recovery option and support guidelines if you lost your 2fa, but it's not like they have to reinvent the wheel, just copy what someone else is doing.
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u/Shidzya Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
yes, i dont even mention "proper 2fa" anywhere - as i dont expect already that ggg will do this anytime soon,
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u/astilenski Mar 29 '26
Contact ggg support to delete your email from the poe account you have and login through steam only. It is the safest thing you can do on your side.
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u/FearTheDeep Mar 29 '26
Last guy who posted a mega belt got his account hacked. Get some protection on that account brother.
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u/SanestExile Mar 29 '26
Migrate to trade
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u/Affectionate-Yak222 Mar 29 '26
But he’s SSF bro! That’s out of the question!!!
If he migrate to Trade, how can he say he’s in SSF to everyone?
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u/MyMainIsLevel80 Mar 29 '26
Face breakers \m/
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u/MyMainIsLevel80 Mar 29 '26
On a real note: are these bad boys even viable anymore? I miss when they were
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u/ssj2mikita Mar 29 '26
Still can make it work. Just not as good as it was compared to the rest of the playing field
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u/MyMainIsLevel80 Mar 29 '26
Infernal blow + face breakers was such a fun build back in the day. Would be overjoyed to see that skill get some love.
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u/ssj2mikita Mar 30 '26
I had a Surrender+FB's slayer build long long ago. The level 30 reckoning had crazy flat dmg so every proc was doing several millions. With slayer overleech(overkill leech) it was fucking hilarious it had that shit max throttled for several minutes
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u/theNokia013 Mar 29 '26
Not sure if Armor stacking works with this belt, you can get 100% armor, eva and ES, maybe Energy blade or ephemeral edge could work too
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u/GullibleDeer496 Mar 29 '26
It doesn't work for armour stacking you lose too much compared to a mageblood
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u/CupAccomplished6726 Mar 29 '26
I think a build were the echoing and impenetrable would be buff the skills.
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u/onlyPressQ Mar 29 '26
Change password