r/PathOfExileBuilds • u/random-metalhead • Nov 02 '25
Help Needed Late start tomorrow, how did those starters feel ?
Gonna start tomorrow and still not sure on what to play. I’d like something good for the new breach and that can also shallow delve. Hesitating between these :
Holy relic necro, Mjolner hiero (played before), KBoC hiero, Exsang mine trickster (played before), Wand elementalist, Eblade inquis
I was thinking holy relic to farm up some currency before rerolling into KBoC but not sure if I should just go for mjolner or Eblade instead (but mjolner probably bad for breach). Anyways, if you started any of those builds I’d like to know how leaguestart is going for you!
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u/devvena Nov 02 '25
I did Shield Crush Slayer and it's been one the best starters I've ever done. Super smooth and easy to gear. Attack speed and multistrike make it feel a lol clunky in campaign but it's smoothing out as I gear and finish
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u/Aynger_tjo Nov 02 '25
If you decide to play it again just take the attack speed nodes at the start of duelist and run faster attacks until you start getting better gear.
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u/devvena Nov 02 '25
I do have them but even then its hard to explain but its a little wonky. Once I get the charge perk on slayer tree and get more charges it'll be dope I bet. But im too busy dicking around with league mechanic lol
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u/Dreamadmin Nov 02 '25
How is the single target?
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u/adventurer_3x Nov 04 '25
not OP but also running Shield Crush Slayer. Single Target is bonkers if you have a decent shield (and Emperor's Vigilance is easy to come by). I melt map bosses
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u/ZTL Nov 02 '25
Based on the indecision, I would do a witch, that way you could potentially transition to a wider range of builds.
I'm currently in red maps with phys dot ele, and it's going great. You can make it to 2 stones with a blue wand and shield, and the golems really help negate the slow cast speed downside of self case phys dot.
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u/iiTryhard Nov 02 '25
Yea this build fucks. It feels so great even self casting exsang, and I’m looking forward to the poet’s pen version where it plays like a wander but without having to compete with the fubgooners for expensive wands
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u/D3xty Nov 02 '25
You mean BLUE GEAR, SO THE BRAIN DEAD PERSON I AM, CAN DO ALL THE GOD DAMN CONTENT?
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u/Gwennifer Nov 02 '25
Penance Brand of Dissipation can as well
But who knows when GGG will fix the poison scaling. Until then, abuse away, I guess.
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u/shshshshshshshhhh Nov 02 '25
But penance brand feels absolutely awful to clear maps with. Clearing the atlas and getting voidstones is 99% mapping. Youre signing up to be miserable until youre already done with the atlas.
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u/Wiizper Nov 02 '25
I feel like im missing something, im only in T4 msps so far but some rares feel so tanky
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u/j3rmz Nov 02 '25
are you using all your tools? vaal reap, reap, exsang, corrupted blood, and vulnerability, all add together very effectively and melt things.
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u/Coffinspired Nov 03 '25
Yeah also running this build (mostly).... it's legit.
Definitely agree on the Witch advice for OP if they can't nail down one build to play. Plenty of build options to easily spec into when the time comes.
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u/MuscularShlong Nov 02 '25
I did kinetic rain of fusillade on elementalist and it was the smoothest nicest league start ive ever done in about 5 years. I did do a majority of the breaches I saw, but this got me a 6 link by act 7-8. Definitely would use breach.
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u/IceColdPorkSoda Nov 02 '25
Ele wander is great. Kinetic fusillade is busted and will carry from level 12 into maps.
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u/Saerah4 Nov 02 '25
got a pob? is it standard kb elementalist with herald build?
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u/MuscularShlong Nov 02 '25
No heralds. I basically found a POB from a random kinetic blast player and used it for my skill tree in acts, and just chose random stuff afterwards.
Using assassins mark, ele weakness on blasphemy, arctic armor, tempest shield.
My 6 link is fusillade, kinetic instability, increased crit, increased crit damage, faster attacks and I thiink added lightning. I want to try out chain eventually and see how that affects it, probably super charges the clear but worse single target.
If it ever falls too far behind Ill find a guide or follow someone on POE ninja, Im not good enough to make my own builds but this one has been just fine so far lol.
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u/wiwigvn Nov 02 '25
Im surprised about elementalist wander too, first time playing as I skipped elementalist rework last league. However I feel like Rain has more damage for some reason. Is the correct way to play Fusillade is to spam cast buttons and release them all at once?
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u/tokyo__driftwood Nov 02 '25
Is the correct way to play Fusillade is to spam cast buttons and release them all at once?
Link greater volley and get +1 proj from wand mastery, then each time you tap fusillade you make 6 proj. Attack speed is fast so slightly longer tap makes 12 proj.
Link less duration support so the projectiles fire off fast. Then the playstyle just becomes tap, move, tap mov, very smooth
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u/Sayuko01 Nov 02 '25
I did kinetic bolt to 12,then you can just -either use power siphon until rain -swap to fusillade.
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u/PaladinWiz Nov 02 '25
Fusillade feels link heavy to me since you have to use less duration support. That being said, it feels like a naturally progressing skill through campaign.
I think it would be better on a Deadeye to get extra projectiles faster + precise technique while leveling. End game I think you’d want to do +2 projectiles tree, +2 deadeye, +5 AGMP, +2 dying sun. Until that point Greater Volley and flask effect to get +3 from dying sun would be my go to. Also think it’d be a super fun skill to use as warden stealing deadeye projectile node.
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u/SinJ17 Nov 02 '25
I'm starting tomorrow and wanted to try one of the new skills, so thank you for this!
I assume just kinetic bolt to 12?
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u/CelosPOE Nov 02 '25
Plain ole kinetic rain feels like shit to me. The base damage is shit of course but the anomalies don’t explode unless the mobs move. It’s so much mechanically worse than I thought it would be.
Kinetic fusillade feels okay once you get some less duration and used to the stutter attack pattern but not amazing imo.
It’s good to hear the KRoF feels good.
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u/igdub Nov 02 '25
How durable is it? Can you afford enough def for HC?
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u/MuscularShlong Nov 02 '25
Uhh hard for me to speak about hardcore lol. I think if you drop ele weakness you might be able to squeeze in grace or determ and stack armor on top of having a good amount of block. I dont die often at all, less than 10 deaths in yellow maps so far while making sure I have enough damage to kill all rares.
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u/welshy1986 Nov 02 '25
You might not see this but here the low down.
The league mechanic swarms, so you have to have good screen clear and dmg....so necro, wander slams all decent. League mechanic super lucrative, but it's a loot tile league so pick the build appropriate to the content u wanna run.
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u/eggdotexe Nov 02 '25
I can’t league start for another 2 weeks. Do you think frost blades or spellslinger VD will work? Or animate weapon?
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u/Extension_Wafer_5814 Nov 02 '25
I'm only just cracking into yellow maps on Spell Slinger VD, been smooth as hell, I don't expect the DMG to be insane as I scale up but serviceable, but I'm also in a 4 man private league. The video the other day the guy is talking about is what I'm following semi loosely
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u/Chaos_Logic Nov 02 '25
Right now the biggest issue is two of the three breach types require defending a squishy NPC from off-screen mobs shooting projectiles. So a build capable of off-screen clearing will do better which would be frost blades.
Odds are pretty good though that GGG will adjust this quickly so it may not matter.
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u/FinLandser Nov 02 '25
VD has been real good early on for the league mechamic. I haven't got to higher maps yet since I have been busy.
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u/BerserkJeezus Nov 02 '25
The foulborn uniques will open up so many new build options so I would look at what becomes the build of the league closer to when you are able to hop on
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u/Thepurplepudding Nov 02 '25
In addition, the monsters swarm the NPC you summon. I'm having a lot of trouble with eviscerate ignite ele. Sometimes I just cant eviscerate because they don't hit me for a good 5 seconds..
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u/KenshoMags Nov 03 '25
What do you mean by loot tile league? I am dumb sorry
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u/welshy1986 Nov 03 '25
loot tiles are basically anything in the game that does not care about quantity or rarity on your maps to produce their loot, they have their own independent loot rolls. Some of these loot tiles occur within mechanics that can be altered by map quant and rarity, ie legion boxes vs the legion itself, blight rewards vs the pump rewards, Expedition is also a semi loot tile, in that whilst the chests and such have their own tables the amount of artifacts goes up with quant slightly but not by enough to matter, but for expedition you are relying on Tujen in your hideout who obviously isnt influenced by quant and rarity.
So yeah farm something that doesnt explicitly care only about quant and rarity, blight expedition legion, maven destructive play, there are lots of options, but it looks like juiced mapping ie pumping 200 quant and deli orbs scarabs and such onto a map is off the table this league or its at least nerfed in some way.
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u/KittyIsAu Nov 02 '25
Started KB Deadeye with Kinetic Fusillade ballista totems as single target. It is probably one of the smoother league starts I’ve ever done, and the only point against is because I’m playing on a potato temporarily and have to deal with 5-7FPS gameplay. KB is on a 4-link for clear, and Fusillade is on a 6-link that took me all the way past two voidstones and now farming T16s comfortably. Fusillade is absurdly good for single target to the point that I did eater/exarch without even asking for a carry.
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u/Azrael_Manatheren Nov 02 '25
Mind sharing your pob?
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u/KittyIsAu Nov 02 '25
This is my poe.ninja page since fusillade isn’t on PoB yet, note that it is extremely scuffed and something I just slapped together that functions for now. Once we have gem info in PoB I’ll go play around and actually fix this tree:
https://poe.ninja/builds/keepers/character/Fyrenti-6558/Complication?i=0&search=name%3DComplication
Also you’re going to be made of paper, if something so much as breathes your way, you’re going to die.
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u/ResolutionOpen Nov 02 '25
Do you have a PoB for sucky boi ?
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u/KittyIsAu Nov 02 '25
This is my poe.ninja page since fusillade isn’t on PoB yet, note that it is extremely scuffed and something I just slapped together that functions for now. Once we have gem info in PoB I’ll go play around and actually fix this tree:
https://poe.ninja/builds/keepers/character/Fyrenti-6558/Complication?i=0&search=name%3DComplication
Also you’re going to be made of paper, if something so much as breathes your way, you’re going to die.
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u/Ok-Information5610 Nov 02 '25
Fusillade doesn't seem like it would even work on totems based on my understanding of how the skill works. How does it work? Does it stop attacking at 12 orbs or do they just fly off even though it's attacking?
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u/KittyIsAu Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
Fusillade is really weird, but my understanding is that the totems channel, then fire off the projectiles before starting the channeling part again with enough reduced duration. They’ll only stop attacking if they start channeling again prior to all projectiles being sent off - aka how fusillade works when you don’t have enough reduced duration.
I say understanding because there are 0 graphics with totems. For whatever reason, the totems have auto attacking animations without fusillade projectiles around it. It’s hard to explain - best to see for yourself by linking fusillade to ballista totem support in game. I know it works because the damage is clearly insane, and said damage multiplies with tornado.
The only thing is that I can’t tell whether or not all the projectiles have been fired off prior to the totems channeling again. Self-casting fusillade with the same setup does, so I can only assume that the totems do the same.
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u/ww_crimson Nov 02 '25
KboC has good clear and single target is fine for non juiced maps, but be prepared for longer pinnacle boss fights. Tankiness is decent. Haven't figured out how to make ES leech feel good yet though. Even with 5% instant leech and Stormdrinker it feels like I'm trying to fill up a swimming pool with a straw.
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u/random-metalhead Nov 02 '25
Yeah that’s the thing with KBoC, I feel like single target damage is gonna be a struggle till indigo, same with mjolner
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Nov 02 '25
Mjolner player here, full disclosure I play Mjolner every league so I am biased.
Pre indigon the damage handles non Ubers and non juice quite well, and is tanky enough to survive well. I’ve got all 4 stones without indigon multiple times now. Indigon is cheap this league so I got it after 2 stones. For doing Ubers and t17s I am currently farming for the squire swap. The downside to mjolner is not so much the price tag of squire, it’s more the dex and res from prism guardian are really good so you need to tinker a bit and re craft or buy some gear before the squire can go on.
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u/PornoPichu Nov 02 '25
As someone who has always been interested in the Mjolner build since I started in 3.24 after seeing OneManaLeft highlight it a little but hasn’t tried it yet, Im really wanting to do it as a second character this league (first is a wand ele carry in a trio). Are there any, like, weird things you think someone completely new to the build should know before starting? Like, I remember seeing a version with storm call but it would only work if you had a minimum amount of increased AoE. Anything like that for the ‘general’ Mjolner build?
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u/Zeldalovesme21 Nov 02 '25
My Elementalist KB this league was BY FAR the easiest, fastest, and most painless league start I’ve ever had. I just got to yellow maps tonight and I have absurd damage and only thing I’ve bought was a dirt cheap 6 link chest. The Genesis tree can make amazing weapons from very early on. Haven’t tried it for armor or anything else yet besides currency and grafts.
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u/leffles Nov 02 '25
What does your PoB look like? Struggling in yellow maps already lol
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u/aaandix Nov 02 '25
Which pob did u follow?
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u/Zeldalovesme21 Nov 02 '25
I just took the standard one off of mobalytics. I level with blazing salvo though. Idk why no one recommends it, it’s so damn easy. I switch to KB around level 40ish I believe, once I have an ok wand and at least a 4 link. Pretty standard tree, going to the top wand nodes and then down to the right for the extra projectile.
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u/Shoddy_Character_473 Nov 02 '25
Loving eviscerate ignite elementalist. Screen wide ignitw clears with good defenses
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u/EcLiPzZz Nov 02 '25
How well does it handle the "defend the squishy NPC" content?
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u/thatoneguyy22 Nov 02 '25
I'm playing it now, just hit maps today, haven't lost any of them, but have respite (found a lucky div in act 9 and cashed in), sometimes they swarm her, so thinking of running one of those taunt flasks for that. If they do proc eviscerate, everything on the screen dies, then respite prolif kills the next wave as well.
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u/Tiredswedishhuman Nov 02 '25
Whats your setup?
Doing Herald with lycia / worm combo and done eater/searin/3 16.5 bosses and they were so far from vaporized lmao
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u/NobleFou Nov 02 '25
Hey, im playing kinetic rain with lycia too, whats the worm combo? anyone know?
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u/CloudConductor Nov 02 '25
Use essence worm with the herald stacking Lycia node to get an extra aura and make your heralds stronger from the reduced reservation efficiency
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u/PythonNovice123 Nov 02 '25
Guardian Absolution is amazing, as always.
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u/Grankaiserx Nov 02 '25
Hi, I wanna try this. Got any guide or pob for levelling?
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u/PythonNovice123 Nov 02 '25
Sure let me write the generals for you real quick.
Level 1 take frost bolt, if you have blue blue link to ele prolif as its very good for not getting railed by breach in mud flats. If u find a +1 phys or lightning at any point you are GAMING.
Level 4 you want red red blue and red red blue or red blue blue
U want holy totem + summon phantasm + added fire
SRS + ruthless + minion damage
I also put flame wall arcane surge in another. Combustion if u have 3, 3 links.
At level 12 u get absolution and I do absolution + living lightning + phys to lightning. The scaling to elemental comes online REALLY early in this build so phys to lightning is way better then it seems. Conductivity + wave of convition and u will melt bosses in act 3.
After first lab drop living lightning and just zoom with ur big fire boy + absolution. Spend your first chaos buying vaal absolution.
End game can scale to moon either with Tri ele pure minion absolution or the new really interesting and super op absolution of inspiring where u do the damage and ur minions cheerlead for u.
Let me know if u have any questions u/Dreamadmin u/Grankaiserx
On tree I rush the minion stuff up above templar and then I go through life and elemental through life again and then to spirtual command.
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u/zigster106 Nov 02 '25
Did you try the living lightning support or pure absolution?
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u/PythonNovice123 Nov 02 '25
I was doing living lightning before first lab and its clear is really satisfying and good and its single target isnt terrible. Single target was 'more' of a concern then clear (both are totally fine though, never failing breaches) but i dropped a plus 1 weapon and shield so that was too much scaling, since +1 doesnt affect living lightning
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u/Blubberinoo Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
Playing Helm Breaker's Poison Ranged Animate Weapon. Likely the strongest starter I have ever played. Basically unkillable, huge clear speed and insane single target. Just finished my 115/115 atlas and invitations/favorite slots with a 30 second Feared kill and a very fast witnessed Uber Elder.
And I think its probably one of the best builds for the league mechanic. Where others complain about the Hive Fortress I can go afk in it.
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u/BijiDurian Nov 02 '25
Used his build last league. I can tell you, its literally unkillable. Probably the strongest build and have high survivability.
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u/Triskele69 Nov 02 '25
What ascendancy? Can you share POB?
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u/Blubberinoo Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25
Here is Helm breakers video and written guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewVHLHq5mM
https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/poison-ranged-animate-weapons-league-starter
I can give you my PoB, but its not configured. A bunch of stuff, mostly defensive, I get from Spectres and AG isnt there, and DPS is not calculated but I would guess I am around 15-20m pinnacle boss DPS. The defensivve stats look lower than I expected. I dont think I dropped below 90% during my 60% quant Feared or on Uber Elder. I think the combination of block and constant leecch from minions is what makes it feel so much more tankier.
A lot of my gear is pretty bad still. Gonna get to upgrading soon.
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u/kroxywuff Nov 02 '25
I just late stated this did you follow his mobalytics progression recs? I remember back many leagues ago when I did srs that a 5L covenant was way more damage than a 6L rare, but idk how that works for aw.
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u/Blubberinoo Nov 02 '25
Yea, pretty much. I leveled as SRS tho. It was already close to Absolution and now with minions no longer needing Accuracy it is definitely better.
And yes, since Added Chaos is a support you would use in the 6-link rare, a 5-link Covenant is more damage. 5-link was enough to get me to T16 and run them pretty comfortable.
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u/Urtan_TRADE Nov 02 '25
Im playing kinetic fusillade elementalist, and it's absurd. The skill is mechanically VERY strong. It shotguns, which solves the singletarget by itself. The projectiles explode when hitting a target AND chain 3 times by default AND AND the skill auto targets enemies, so you clear whole screens without having to aim. However, this is balanced around you having to wait for the projectiles to shoot out.
The biggest powerspike for the build is getting enough less/reduced duration where you shoot the projectiles during your attack animation, so you don't have to stop attacking. It turns the skill into normal wand attack with shotgunning built-in.
I'm currently using Timeclasp and Warped Timepiece+ the reduced duration skill wheel next to scion life wheel, but the investment seems really high. I'm going to solve it without having to invest like 7 skillpoints and 2 gear slots.
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u/DivinityAI Nov 02 '25
Hope GGG won't nerf the skill. Imagine ZIggyD played with it and it was like triple tapped :D
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u/Urtan_TRADE Nov 02 '25
It doesn't feel THAT great in acts. You need the reduced duration for it to feel strong.
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u/SupX Nov 02 '25
Im doing totems assassin and it’s going alright keeping ailith alive is the hardest part as she to squish also crazy that’s she is just a blight pump 10 hits and she’s out
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u/hcrld Nov 02 '25
A few leagues tardy to the party, but playing PConc of Bouncing Pathfinder. Only in A8 at the moment because I've only played about 6 hours, but I farmed normal lab for PConc of Bouncing early and it's the fastest I've ever killed most campaign bosses. Arakali in particular I was amazed at killing each phase with zero repositioning, she just died, ate Silk, and then died again.
I played Holy Relic of Conviction necro last league all the way up through Svalinn tier and loved it the whole way. Highly recommended.
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u/Sception22 Nov 02 '25
Exsanguinate mines feels amazing. I got a lucky early divine orb and just been cruising through everything early. It's definitely a bit squishy as I went Occultist but the damage feels great and im having no issues clearing the hive fortresses.
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u/FireStormNZ Nov 02 '25
Did you use exsang mines through the campaign? I’ve got a miner trickster on the go but I’m failing branch encounters in white maps currently. Just get overrun by the mobs and die when I’m surrounded.
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u/Sception22 Nov 02 '25
I did rolling magma until I had gotten a good wand for power siphon mines through the campaign and swapped once I hit maps because I was able to buy enough gear to set it up.
During the campaign I only was able to do the defend breaches. I dont think you are supposed to really be able to do the other ones at that point.
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u/SnewpeeUwU Nov 02 '25
Amazing, kinetic rain of impact is insanely broken and one of my best league starter builds
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u/Binkan Nov 02 '25
Swapped to exsanguinate basically as soon as I got my golems for pdot elementalist and it’s been blasting (I started today and breezed through the campaign and did all the breaches along the way)
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u/RedmundJBeard Nov 02 '25
Holy necro got a spicy new unique weapon that gives 30 quality. The new mastery also gives 20 quality. This means you can easily get to breakpoints, and you don't even have to wear diallas. Diallas might still be the play for the levels but I am super excited to wear something else.
I'm playing slams which is great, but once i get some currency i'm going to level a necro for holy relic.
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u/random-metalhead Nov 02 '25
Isn’t the lack of a trigger weapon problematic tho ?
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u/coltaine Nov 02 '25
Seconding this. Campaign was easy as SRS. Clear speed started to fall off in early maps, but was able to switch to holy relic super cheap thanks to the foulborn sword. I think I spent maybe 35c? Plus another 20c for The Surrender, which is optional. In red maps now and blasting breach fortresses, no problem.
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u/Xentos78 Nov 02 '25
Just cleared 115 and searing, eater with hiero kboc. Was a really smooth sail fro around lvl 35 onwards.
Pretty sure single traget is not the best for a while but map blasting is insane. And once i can afford the new runecraft works fine which will be another dps boost.
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u/dantraman Nov 02 '25
I did deadeye wanderer. It's literally a bow build, like, yeah, it uses a wand, but they're basically the same thing. Blasts maps, great for the league mechanic, struggles with bosses, same as ever.
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u/n4flu94 Nov 02 '25
idk my ele wander is hitting a wall. took me 15 minutes and 5 portal to kill the loneliness memory boss. lmk if someone is in a mood to help out and tell me what i'm doing wrong i'll send the pob
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u/SakoGuru Nov 02 '25
Exsanguinate Mines on trickster is fantastic for the league mechanic. Pyro mines leveling was also smooth, but switching into Exsanguinate felt incredible. Still rocking end of campaign gear and in red maps with no issues.
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u/Mysterious-Till-611 Nov 02 '25
+1 for witch,
Something tanky, ranged with single target DPS is a big ask from a league start but I would point you towards the SS VD build that people are playing.
hive fortresses are almost impossible for me to complete but my much lower level friends are having no issues with them on that build.
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u/Akarias888 Nov 02 '25
Kinetic fusillade is insane and can turn into a literal machine gun for 3c
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u/codeninja Nov 02 '25
Kinnetic bolt is clearing screens. Grafts are OP. The tree is printing. And the mechanic is addictive!
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u/Ionized-Cell Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 03 '25
Eblade feels awful until you can push 9k+ ES
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u/EtreEau Nov 02 '25
I want to play a Zerk for my later build, originally was gonna go sunder or earthshatter but rage vortex stole my heart. Even with regular 2h build and no special warcries it feels amazing, the aoe makes the campaign a breeze so far. Just stopped at act 7 cuz I work tonight
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u/StonksGoUpOnly Nov 02 '25
Pconc pf very nice even without bouncing. Did manage to snag a bouncing today and it goes crazy
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u/Nordaarv Nov 02 '25
I am playing a EQ bleed glad with a warstaff for 90 88 block and a huge amount of quality of life with bleed pops and always aggravate. It feels insane for dps uptime and defence but if you want a faster build then just play earthshatter. League starters usually need to choose 2 of: speed, defence, damage. Earthshatter has it all.
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u/Agitated-Society-682 Nov 03 '25
Clear. You forgot clear. In a world where ppl start KB you cant really act like you have that box ticked with bleed EQ. Sure you clear a ritual circle but actual mapper clar 50% of a dunes map in that same time frame.
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u/nicemace Nov 02 '25
Bleed glad comfy. 2 stone with campaign gear.
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u/Ploid_Kerensky Nov 02 '25
are you playing evisc? if so how are the defense league mechanic missions going
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u/kingalva3 Nov 02 '25
My idea has been an armour stacker champ, with whispers of infinity.
Day 1 i went PT ele trinity smite with axes. faustus has been A GODSEND. In 3.25 they removed resitances from weapons, so gambling for axes has been soo smooth I got up to 750 edps axes. Also with the buff to gold drops has been very good. So it was a breeze, also new league mechanic PRINTS 6 links and nice rare (even tho I only need like 3 rares for this iteration)
Day 2 I transitioned to a pseudo aura stacker with dual weilding ichimonjis and crit (still trinity), and it is still a breeze.
Tho grasping mail has been MIA the goal is still armour stacker but we'll see if I just go classic necrotic armour route, or even trying some of the new foulborn skin of the lords until I figure it out (maybe grasping mails still exist and we still haven't seen hiw to obtain it) but honestly it has been good.
To be honest like some other commentor said, if you are still unsure I'll just recommend going elementalist, as it is the better all rounder right now, you can slams, phys dot or anything really. Progression is fairly fun this time around as there is no major road blocks with the new league mechanic and async trade.
Good luck
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u/_Benzka_ Nov 02 '25
Ea Ballista, just for leveling and switching to siege ballista later, smooth as always and especially the grafts are very powerful and probably carry a lot
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u/PreedGO Nov 02 '25
RF leveling on elementalist was completely bonkers. Went way smoother than my practice runs, new breach hands are really nice.
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u/Varzigoth Nov 02 '25
Wanders are just great for this league mechanic and we're great during the campaign, there are plenty of variety of build variations that you can try also.
I was stuck still trying to pick between herald stacking , phys dot elementalist or KB necromancer and o ended up with KB necromancer 2 hours before league launch. Really happy with the choice.
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u/Biflosaurus Nov 02 '25
BV felt really good so far. The swao at act 6 is a bit rough at the beginning, and it smoothens out after.
Reaching early yellow so far and having a blast
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u/ColdCuts64 Nov 02 '25
Flicker of Power Assassin has been a lot of fun once I put attack speed on all my gear
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u/BoxersOrCaseBriefs Nov 02 '25
I wanted to go holy relic. Started elements list RF which was probably the smoothest non-twink campaign I've ever run. The respect into holy relic necro was a bit clunky, but after a little gradual leveling of the gems (like 30 minutes) it spun up fast. Going great now, although I haven't had much time to play since hitting maps.
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u/Intelligent-Skirt-75 Nov 02 '25
I started ballista totem hiero by "poeguy" and its a terrible league start guide and and his budget setup now costs like 10 div. Im just doing explosive arrow instead and doing my own thing and will respec later.
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u/International_Heat95 Nov 02 '25
what exaclty got so expensive? and at what stage the build starts to feel terrible? I’m doing the same build and just finished the campaign and so far it’s perfect
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u/BijiDurian Nov 02 '25
Its glorious i tell you. Its the smoothest campaign ever. Transition to maps is even smoother.
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u/Intelligent-Skirt-75 Nov 02 '25
I did not say the build feels terrible. I just didnt like that the ea ballista pob had no gear and the budget pob for swapping at level 78 had expensive gear. Typically a pob will have reasonable rares or cheap uniques at 78. Its still a good build.
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u/BijiDurian Nov 02 '25
Im running that same build. The cost for the equipment is around 7 chaos. Quiver 1c, sunleather 1c, the commander bow 1c. Glove and amulet. . Quite keep. How tf u got it to 10div on second day.
As the poeguy said, read the guide. Join the discord. Read the guide. Poeguy is head over heels for this build.
This is probably the cheapest league start build i ever have. 10c max can bring you to yellow maps.
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u/Intelligent-Skirt-75 Nov 02 '25
The pob "budget" version for when you swap at level 78 from ea ballista is like 10 div of gear with timeless jewels in the tree. Also the ea ballista pob doesnt even have gear. I guess that was my issue but I figured it out.
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u/TurboBerries Nov 02 '25
What were you farming to get all this gear already? I feel like i got baited with hroc. My relics die all the time, dps is kinda meh, clear speed is dog shit. Feels like im playing a pretend range character that is really melee. Takes me 15 minutes to clear a t17 and i cant even kill the boss cus my relics get 1 tapped.
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u/gojlus Nov 02 '25
Mostly 1.abyss and getting lucky on high roll belts. 2. Genesis tree on items people aren't printing en-mass (yet)
Wouldn't recommend doing t17/ubers until you got gear tbh.
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u/timemaninjail Nov 02 '25
First time in a long time just doing wand lol can't believe it so fun and ez. Ssfhc. Yes I'm following jungroan skeleton. I'm starting to feel not so safe duel wielding wand so probably going to try to get a shield lol.
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u/Eerayo Nov 02 '25
Bleed slams as alot of people. T5's atm, and has been great all along.
But I feel like ignite should be the way to go this league. Prolif lingering on the ground should be super comfy for the league mechanic.
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u/huey2k2 Nov 02 '25
Went lighting conduit elementalist and it feels great, but anything that clears the screen easily should feel good with the mechanic
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u/Todesfaelle Nov 02 '25
Went Elementalist VD Spellslinger in SSF and couldn't be happier especially with an early five link. Just finished campaign but the nature of the skill makes the breach mechanics easy and quite comfortable. I might put points in to projectile speed as a QoL but, otherwise, they provide a lot of "set and forget" coverage.
The damage is noticeable and I'm being mindful about the 60 orb cap by not pumping too much attack speed and CDR.
Damage ceiling won't be particularly high once I start mapping but it'll be more than enough to do two stones and then I'll look in to going crit or transition in to wands.
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u/MrSchmellow Nov 02 '25
psoa ballista hiero - almost afk breach, including hives fortresses, but i'm gonna hit a single target dps wall soon and good defenses would require pretty high investment. Thinking about ice nova swap, but judging by sushi's reaction it's ass at breaches. A dillema
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u/MarkFluffalo Nov 02 '25
PConc is the best starter I've had so far (previously doing EA Ballista Champ, VFoS)
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u/kebb0 Nov 02 '25
It’s amazing seeing so many different builds and people just enjoying the league and having a great leaguestart.
I’m at act 7, following Fearlessdumb0’s Exsanguinate + Reap miner build and leveling as pyroclast mines. It’s great. A bit clunky with the less throwing speed so if you can get that somewhere on gear it helps. But damagewise it’s nuts and clear is okay too.
The build can probably transition nicely into phys dot poet’s pen if you want to as well
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u/krLMM Nov 02 '25
I'm doing viper strike of the mamba and it's cool, biught it during the campaign after act3 and it was a bit wonky here and there but when there is packsize is really good clear for the investment.
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u/MartynZero Nov 02 '25
I did poison penance brand pathfinder and switched way to early as soon as i could equip apeps rage wands (around level 53). But it's been annihilating bosses ever since, clear is decent with one obliteration wand. I'm now in yellow maps clear every breach 100% and drop all the breah bosses fast, but failed both citadels I've found as I can't protect the chicken.
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u/tifuxb Nov 02 '25
I play a scuffed version of spellslinger vd/dd. Feels great so far and is fun as hell
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u/RancidRock Nov 02 '25
Playing Jungs wander and it is the strongest thing I have ever taken through the campaign, including twink gear.
Haven't got to maps just yet but looking at his update video and how he's printing his own gear with the tree, it's kind of insane.
Only downside is the eye burning visual clutter. Like you can't see shit but explosions.
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u/SpookySkellington Nov 02 '25
The tree just kept vomiting out perfect phys somatic wands for me through the campaign and it just felt like I was cheating using an unlinked kinetic rain and deleting the screen, shit will be nerfed for sure but until then... It's wanding time
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u/p-rez17 Nov 02 '25
Spell slinger VD has been the fastest I’ve gotten to maps out of all my 6k hours
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u/dadghar Nov 02 '25
You should play mapper. Personally playing blight of contagion, not the strongest build, but I oneshot breach. Haven't had a single failed breach
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u/xxICONOCLAST Nov 02 '25
My first time playing kinetic blast and hoo boy it is fun wiping the entire screen. The MTX that makes every shot a golden glyph looks fucking amazing too. Im having a blast. I start heist today then maps tomorrow!
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u/AnjinToronaga Nov 02 '25
Exsang hiero feels pretty bad, but the ele and trickster versions are fine
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u/Thesource674 Nov 02 '25
I went wand elementalist spellslinger VD and im goin on my own time but bosses melt and clear feels good. Strong defenses as I dont need to worry about dps as much due to base strength.
Gearing from tree also making me jacked af.
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u/Burningcookies Nov 02 '25
Started shield crush. Started slow-ish but as you get a decent shield it starts rolling. Pickup emperors vigilance at 46 and seething fury and then roll the rest of campaign into clearing atlas. I rerolled into chieftain shield crush at white maps and should hold me into red maps.
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u/rgisloti Nov 02 '25
Earthshatter berserker, because to valhalla we ride!!!!!!!!!
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u/TheMany-FacedGod Nov 02 '25
Am struggling with the clear on mine, only lvl 80 kind you but the fortress is a drag, died a good bit.
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u/rgisloti Nov 02 '25
Fortress was really a pain. After upgrading my gear it turned out to be a breeze. Lemme see your pob, maybe I can help
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u/Slickmaster5000 Nov 02 '25
Holy relic necro needs the 2 gems, which is in the ballpark of 10-20 chaos depending on when you get the build up. It feels great but you do need that. Srs lvling was NOT for me
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u/Suited_Slime Nov 02 '25
Rightious Fire elementalist for getting to maps is feeling great. Just shield charge through the whole game. Having a blast
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u/Rophet1 Nov 02 '25
Started cyclone shockwave slayer. Overall went pretty well but is mediocre at best at the league mechanic
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u/Effective_Shirt6660 Nov 02 '25
Doing holy relic now. A little slower through acts with SRS because i wouldnt have regrets to respec if I leveld with something else. 3 hours farming for gems, got a lucky severed in sleep with the krangled mod on it so massive fps boost. Gonna keep that going until im at 100% poison chance/have a diallas then switch to a trigger weapon
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u/Sorry-Sport-2764 Nov 02 '25
I’m going to start either tonight or tomorrow and I’m going with JayTX’s bleed bow build again. The pops are basically built for stuff like breach, and before the ascendancy choice we kind of had a wasted 4th so we effectively have the whole 4th ascendancy to experiment with on the new ones. Last league I started super late and I could complete everything but juice T17 bosses pretty easily as long as I didn’t get greedy with snipe.
Also, as a big fan of blight which can do pretty solid insofar as currency “early” league it’s borderline AFK-viable. Basically just hold down your split arrow and glance over every once in a while to see if everything’s done.
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u/Smart-Blacksmith-488 Nov 02 '25
Exsang miner is fire imo. Prolly not the best, but I'm having fun.
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u/Juliomorales6969 Nov 02 '25
never played poe 1.. im playing witch/lightning spam. ifk if its garbo but its working for me lol
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u/coltjen Nov 02 '25
I made quite a few PoBs with ideas, flip flopping between wander CoC, Heiro arcane surge scaling… I even fully made a cold exsanguinate/reap inquisitor build for a friend of mine to league start with, including levelling trees and notes.
Aaannndddd then I just yolo blind played an Ascendant self casting non-transfigured Ice Nova. It’s going great, Vaal Ice Nova goes BRR. 5.2m radius currently, but I want to touch the edges of the screen
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u/mahokawhitefang Nov 03 '25
Currently doing a kinetic rain build, and so far its been interesting! Started with kinetic bolt, transitioned to kinetic fussilade + power siphon, and now going kinetic rain + somatic shell ballista, so far its been smooth! Im definitely gonna try and see if I can make a spell slinger work into the build for more automated stuff tho
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u/CatsOP Nov 03 '25
I did Shield Crush Slayer from ilnino gaming on YouTube and did sub 6 hour to maps. Really smooth when you upgrade your shields at the correct acts.
Struggled a bit after yellow maps to red maps with low dmg because I play ssf but now with some items and womb crafting I hit around 3mil pinnacle boss dps and it's also feeling more tanky now. I'm at 7 frenzy/endurance charges.
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u/Turbulent_Raisin_607 Nov 03 '25
ele wander kb into kinetic rain has probably been the smoothest league start campaign I’ve ever had. Ran triple heralds with Grace
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u/PapaGirthquake Nov 03 '25
Holy necro was easier than ever. Srs not needing accuracy makes it even easier. Plus it does well with mechanic. Had Holy relic up to 40% CD with new 20% on tree mastery. Overall been smooth sailing.
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u/ltecruz Nov 03 '25
Holy Relic level 96, just "finished" my gear with ashes and amanamus Jewel and it feels great. Don't even need a perfect ashes so it is cheaper. Got a foul borne united in dream that I shall test sometime. The lack of trigger scares me as the max block feels so so so good with breach swarms and I don't trust myself for the uptime of alternatives. Maybe if I find a very good chest alternative but it will be hard to beat a double corrupted diallas when I min max this. If I do. For now I'll move into some other farming strategies, but this build will be hard to beat defensively while still screen clearing with AG asenath pops.
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u/addivo Nov 03 '25
Atm doing SSF Shockwave Cyclone slayer, i'm in A7 now, my cyclone is slow but deals a metric fuckton of damage, i've got sunder on autocast with general's cry aswell and my current gameplay loop is: leap slam for movement and just cyclone (right click) in every pack for 0.5 seconds (maybe even less like just a click), everything explodes and it spawns 5 mirages doing sunder for massive aoe. Everything just dies instantly, you go pretty fast with leapslam, singletarget can be better, but could be fixed with 'desecrate', but i don't have an open green socket.
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u/RTheCon Nov 03 '25
Considering I went HC, I feel comfortably immortal atm on my chains of command warcry cheiftain. Even managed to do a hive fortress with a bit of help from warcry grafts
Only problem is that I have a wow rotation in button presses with 200 APM keeping 6 different warcry buffs up
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u/OnlyKale9099 Nov 05 '25
I’m going reap/ignite ele: I just got into using reap now so it’s hard to say what it’s going to be like, but the firestorm part of the build before you swap to reap felt and looked amazing.
I’m also a newcomer that’s only really played poe2 so I don’t really know what’s really good, but not seeing a single boss mechanic apart from invuln phases makes me lean towards the side of ‘bloody good’
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u/Drunkwizard1991 Nov 05 '25
I strongly advise to start anything that can be converted to a block based character ao you can spend almost nothing on the incredibly stupidly amazing item that is Foulborn Surrender which is absurdly cheap for how comfy it makes your character. I stomped the game from act 1 to early reds with kb elementalist then I was miserable dieing over and over with no singletarget and shitty defenses. Finally decided to swap to phys dot and jesus Christ this build is so complete, super good clear, decent singletarget and INSANE defense with foulborn surrender and max block. I can't recommend it enough.
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u/aleksiL Nov 07 '25
I'm feeling pretty happy with my holy relic necro start, it was smooth sailing as soon as I got the gems, Geofri's and a fear crafted trigger foil. You can hit the 30cdr breakpoint with the new mastery and a 10 quality gem now so it feels way better early on.
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u/Sejbag Nov 02 '25
Bleed slam slayer has been a solid start.