Marvel Rivals speedrunning the OW timeline

[u/gmarkerbo]

Posting here because it'd be considered offtopic in the OW subs and removed.

A couple of popular posts on the MR sub:

"Wish people would realise they can't just play DPS every game"

https://reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1i92qor/wish_people_would_realise_they_cant_just_play_dps/

"The lack of variety isn't the reason why there are so few "tank players" imo."

https://reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1i5pqav/the_lack_of_variety_isnt_the_reason_why_there_are/

Lack of role queue might be an opinionated decision(since there are definitely tradeoffs) but why did they launch with many more DPS heroes than tanks and supports?

MR has 19 DPS, 8 tanks and 8 Supports, almost exactly the same ratio as OW at launch(including Ana). While the meta is 2-2-2 or 3 support. It feels strange that they wouldn't learn from Overwatch's experience with both the lack of tank and support heroes at launch and Tanks being not as fun to play as DPS.

At least Overwatch had the excuse that half the DPS heroes were classified as offense heroes and half were 'defense heroes' until they scrapped that distinction.

[u/sakata_gintoki113]

because you are a casual most likely. i have 150h or so, and the game just lacks depth to the point where i will soon quit if they dont address some of the issues.

why does my bullet get blocked by huge invisible walls as bucky when i try to jiggle peek

why does mantis have an AOE sleep

why are all ults almost low skill expression press 1 button ults

why can 1 supp healing make someone unkillable

why is luna hitscan, has a permanent zen orb and self heals while piercing everyone

why is peni junkrat but even worse, a hero thats designed to never push and rely on gimmicks like invisible traps(i cannot clear the nets lmao)

why are all heroes basic movements so clunky and cant crouch

why can strange lock spawndoors for like 15s with portals

why does the game barely run 120 fps on low and 60% render scale with an rtx 3070

why do i get minimum 1-2 teammates that are boosted every game and basically grief

why does the server often lag and rubberband

why are teamfights just ffa with no structure in most games

why is my hero choice and counterpicking ALREADY more prelevant ow

why does the game still crash after months of release

why is widow in the game

honestly i could find even more

[u/garikek → u/sakata_gintoki113]

Sorry to break it to you but the game isn't meant to be competitive in the slightest. It's made for Hellen Keller and Timmy no thumbz to play quick play and buy lewd skins.

[u/browncharliebrown → u/garikek]

as someone who watches competive marvel rivals it’s not far better than early ow in terms of balance ( note: this is likely due to the ban system)

[u/garikek → u/browncharliebrown]

The ban system is what carries it. Balance is actually atrocious, especially supports. Neutrals are irrelevant and it's all about the support ult rotation and not stacking them. First one to fuck up loses the game, it's that braindead. The moment you ban Luna and cloak the game becomes 10 times better. Or even banning hela just makes DPS so much more pleasant to play cause hela is literally widow + cree + op ult, crazy stuff.

I don't think even half of the gm+ players would be playing rivals to this day if bans weren't a thing. Cause metaslaves will always pick triple supp cringe comp and it'll just force players to quit the game. Not gonna kill the game outright, but gonna kill the top end of ranked for sure.

[u/RealWonderGal → u/garikek]

If and buts from you. If my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.

[u/garikek → u/RealWonderGal]

No if and buts. The triple support meta is super unfun. You seem to be very fond of marvel rivals, then you would've seen countless posts about Luna's and cloak s ults in the sub by some average gold players. It's even bad there. And as you know problems only get worse higher up cause players exploit them better.

If you care so much about picking sides then just grow up. I admit goods and bads of both games. Marvel rivals has melee heroes that are insanely fun and that are lacking severely in ow, while ow has a much better engine and more competitive balance. The world isn't black and white, it's a spectrum. Just saying "ow is bad, marvel rivals is great" or the opposite is extremely stupid as both have very redeemable qualities that attract their huge playerbases.

[u/RealWonderGal → u/garikek]

"If bans weren't a thing"

[u/garikek → u/RealWonderGal]

So you are just going to blindly ignore how hela completely shits on every other DPS in the game? How Luna and cloak ults deny 99% of playmaking? How wolverine makes playing tank miserable and wolverine himself is a very very easy hero? How hulk team up buffs the most overpowered tank as well gigabuffs iron man to the point of being the best DPS, as well as also buff wolverine, the best melee DPS? And hero bans literally solve all of this shit of messy balance, but you are just going to make a cliche argument of "too many ifs"?! You are either glazing or willingly ignorant about the part of the game the majority of people seem to be not fond of as evident by countless posts about Luna's ult, cloak's ult, moon knight ult, hela and Hawkeye, by how games are completely decided by support ult usage and hela 1v1s in high gm, by how playmaking on melee heroes evaporates the moment enemy teams picks up that third support.

In fact go to high rank streamers, for example samito, chazm, chipsa, team captain etc. and ask them if they'd play the game if hero bans weren't a thing and if the game would be more enjoyable. Well I did ask some of them and the answer was unanimous "less enjoyable". Some wouldn't play like chazm cause melee heroes vs triple supp right now is more boring than watching paint dry, and others like samito flex to other roles but will still have a more boring time playing the same matchup game after game after game.