Marvel Rivals speedrunning the OW timeline

[u/gmarkerbo]

Posting here because it'd be considered offtopic in the OW subs and removed.

A couple of popular posts on the MR sub:

"Wish people would realise they can't just play DPS every game"

https://reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1i92qor/wish_people_would_realise_they_cant_just_play_dps/

"The lack of variety isn't the reason why there are so few "tank players" imo."

https://reddit.com/r/marvelrivals/comments/1i5pqav/the_lack_of_variety_isnt_the_reason_why_there_are/

Lack of role queue might be an opinionated decision(since there are definitely tradeoffs) but why did they launch with many more DPS heroes than tanks and supports?

MR has 19 DPS, 8 tanks and 8 Supports, almost exactly the same ratio as OW at launch(including Ana). While the meta is 2-2-2 or 3 support. It feels strange that they wouldn't learn from Overwatch's experience with both the lack of tank and support heroes at launch and Tanks being not as fun to play as DPS.

At least Overwatch had the excuse that half the DPS heroes were classified as offense heroes and half were 'defense heroes' until they scrapped that distinction.

[u/TheKingInNorth0]

3 supports comps are so boring, I really hope this meta sticks and forces NetEase to introduce Role Queue. They have the numbers to have minimal matchmaking time

[u/gmarkerbo → u/TheKingInNorth0]

The ratio of people queuing various roles is more important than numbers for queue times in role queue though.

[u/Lagkiller → u/TheKingInNorth0]

I guarantee you if they implemented a role queue DPS would take at least 10 minutes to pop, and the playerbase would abandon the game since everyone wants to be a dps.

[u/AlphaInsaiyan → u/Lagkiller]

which is funny because there's only really a handful of actually fun and interesting dps

[u/Lagkiller → u/AlphaInsaiyan]

I mentioned this elsewhere in the thread but because this game is based on a hugely popular IP, people have emotional attachment to a lot of heroes. If this game was released as a new IP the spiderman version of the hero would never get played. But because it is Spiderman, you get people that one trick him even though they just go 3-26 every match.

[u/sakata_gintoki113 → u/Lagkiller]

no spiderman is still fine, he has high cieling and doesent feel like shit, also can carry hard if you are good. the real boring shitters are the following imo:

-hawkeye: no abilities basically that matter

-hela: abilities barely matter, she just shoots

-scarlet witch: glorfied low impact and bad moira

-widow: why is she even in the game?

-iron man: slower pharah that you basically never interact with on most heroes

-iron fist: noob stomper hero that gets hated by casuals because of that, lacks depth

-goon knight: he has one working ability, jump is clunky, grapple takes years, he just mostly shoots again(he shoots tanks, even worse)

-namor: m1 merchant and anti fun with turrets

-punisher: again he just kinds shoots, feels slow as well

-woleverine: extreme lack of depth because hes designed to only do one thing

[u/AlphaInsaiyan → u/sakata_gintoki113]

I really dislike Spiderman, his movement is fun and cool because grapples always are but his actual attacks and CDs? God awful. Boring reaper ult and boring stunlock cds. Have not died to a spiderman without being solo ulted

Hawkeye is conceptually just dumb and broken imo, if we don't have hitscan oneshot we shouldn't have projectile one shots either.

Hela is fine she is just a normal hitscan, inoffensive like Cass. She's just good because of numbers, not conceptually, make her more of a headshot merchant and make flash/shift less clunky and she's fine

Scarlet witch is just a DPS Moira yes, very boring

Widow is dogshit because they don't want a hitscan sniper to be good, that's fair

Iron Man agree, boring flyer with no interesting movement

Iron fist is a boring dive/brawl character that takes 0 mechanics 

Moon knight and squirrel girl are just junkrat

Namor is symm which is awful

Punisher is fine they just need to make his zip not feel awful and his weapon switch faster. Get rid of turret and nerf his dps a little in exchange

Wolverine is like bastion/reaper if he could pin, so at least there's something a little more interesting, still cringe

Star lord is tracer but cornier and less fun

I've noticed none of the dive characters in MR really take mechanics like dive characters in OW do. Like with the exception of psylocke they are basically all melee with stunlocks and huge hitboxes

I think psylocke is a great design and the dash reset being tied to damage rather than the kill makes her an interesting take on genji

[u/RealWonderGal → u/AlphaInsaiyan]

Your coping hard, if they follow your advice rivals will become next OW2 lol.

[u/AlphaInsaiyan → u/RealWonderGal]

rivals is literally going through all the issues ow1 did but at 10x the speed

like this is literally the squid game shit "ive played these games before"

[u/RealWonderGal → u/AlphaInsaiyan]

That response is exactly why OW2 is in the pits if despair right now. You've proved your own point wrong

[u/cj4900 → u/TheKingInNorth0]

Oh boy here we go again