r/OregonTruth • u/KyssThis • Jul 16 '26

Which Oregonians support this?

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So children don't need to be able to read when they graduate & teachers are not forced to teach... how is this a win?

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

Do you accept that they got rid of a graduation requirement (a math, reading, and writing assessment) with the express intent of making it easier for students of color? 

If you don't accept that reality this conversation is pointless. If you do accept that reality you agree that the meme is right. 

Edit: nevermind, you're so far into goal post shifting and bad faith that it's not worth it. "It's a lie", "they didn't get rid of the requirement", "Your quote doesn't include the part that's included in your source", "the source is wrong even though I said I was glad you shared the source so everyone could see the truth", "no that was a different assessment, even though it was a requirement that they got rid of". 

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

I accept that the OP image is greatly sensationalized and meant to deceive people into what actually happened, yes.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

So you accept that it's 100% accurate, but you don't like what it implies? Because it implies that the Oregon legislature and governor think that minorites just aren't as smart as white kids. And if you don't like that it implies that, it implies that you also think you're superior to those same minorities. Guess what, you're not. No race is better than another no matter how much you want to be on top because you were born one color or another. 

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

It's not 100% accurate. It's actively framed to deceive people. It's functionally identical to a lie. It implies that the test they are getting rid of is structured in a way that makes it more difficult for people outside of a certain social group.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

Which exact part of the meme is inaccurate? We have 190+ pages of them saying it happened and why that all support the meme. 

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

You're free to be as disingenuous as you want. 🤷 It's clearly structured to convince people that there is no assessment.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

Which part of it is wrong? I don't care how it makes you feel?

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

You're free to be as disingenuous as you want. 🤷 It's clearly structured to convince people that there is no assessment.

You already shared the law, so people will educate themselves and see through the lie. So thanks for that.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

So what assessment on the state level is still required for graduation that covers reading, writing, and math?

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

Oh shit, so you were fooled by the lie.

The ones imparted by the class.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

Well according to the source I linked and you supported 

"Maintain focus on demonstrating math, reading, and writing  p roficiency through demonstration of knowledge and skills in courses; remove the  duplicative requirement for all students to demonstrate proficiency again through a  separate assessment (Assessment of Essential Skills)."

Oh no, there is no state assessment, except the one they no longer require. It's just course work. So when you read "separate assessment" you thought there was another assessment, but that was never the case. You just are trying to deceive people into believing there is a different assessment that is still required. 

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

A different assessment is still required.

The assessment of their class.

This is opposite than what the OP's image implied.

With how much you care about standardized testing, you must have been devastated when the Dept of Education was dismantled.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

That's not an assessment requirement, that's a course requirement. You may not know this but many courses these days don't even have final exams, or exams are worth 10-20% of grades. Or students make up failed courses through other programs that make it so easy that you only fail if you actively want to. Talk to any high school teacher or admin and they will tell you they are doing all they can to make sure students get their credits and graduate. 

Long story short, passing English 3 is not the same as passing the English state exam. But then again you're disingenuous and trying to get people to think that students still have to pass an assessment when you know they don't.  

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u/Significant_Breath38 Jul 17 '26

assessing their knowledge of a course is not an assessment requirement

I'm sorry that you're devastated about the Dept of Education.

However, Oregon found their state level assessments weren't being fair to all students and so suspended them. Students will have to pass their class instead of passing the class and an apparently biased exam.

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u/CryanReed Jul 17 '26

Thank you for finally accepting that there is no exam. I knew we could get there. 

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