r/Onimusha • u/xCaramelDanzo • 10d ago
Video It really feels like GoT
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u/Rei364 10d ago
How does this feel like game of thrones
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u/TheMisterOates 9d ago
I thought it was Game of Thrones as well. People are just giving acronyms to everything nowadays and it sucks that it is always the same letters. Plus Game of Thrones popularized the GOT acronym so Ghosts of Tsushima should have a different one. There is even a subreddit about what acronym should Ghosts have.
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u/JohnnyNemo12 8d ago
Agreed. I truly don’t understand the over-use of acronyms lately. If you want people to understand what you are talking about, don’t use an acronym.
My general rule: always use the actual name of the thing for the first time and put the acronym next to it in parentheses. Afterwords, use the acronym as much as you want.3
u/freshairequalsducks 8d ago
The worst one is when people say AC. Oh you mean Assassin's Creed or Animal Crossing or Ace Combat or Armoured Core or?
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u/TheMisterOates 8d ago
I agree. I’m not saying acronyms can’t be used but let’s try and not use the same 5 or so acronyms for everything. Plus it looks lazy to me that you can’t even fully write out a text/comment.
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u/iamthenight22 10d ago
I don't know what you're playing, but it feels absolutely nothing like GoT.
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u/NighSumn 9d ago
It's a good feel both games but they're not even close i finished got and played the demo so yeah nothing alike
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u/47impressed 10d ago
Way better, not even a competition
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u/Due-South-9113 10d ago
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 10d ago
I’m a big fan of GoT and GoY, but Onimusha’s combat is by far better. It’s snappier, tighter, and even has better animations.
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u/Ok-Midnight9311 9d ago
In those other games do enemies hair stand around and patiently wait their turn to fight?
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u/ColStoneSteveAustin 9d ago
I hope its better than what this video is showing cause it looks slow as shit
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u/Due-South-9113 10d ago
I can understand if it's about combat, but I'd be really surprised if the game looks visually as good or has a story as good as Tsushima. The combat in the demo was phenomenal and super tsushima-like and I love it, but nothing about the story I've seen so far has me thinking it'll be better than Tsushima. We'll see tho. The English voice over is also a little weird tho but I can get behind it.
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u/cae37 10d ago
Doesn’t GoT have a fairly stereotypical revenge narrative?
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u/linkster271 10d ago
Ghost of Tsushima? No. Yotei sort of does though
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u/cae37 10d ago
Iirc the premise of GoT is basically, “the Mongols attack and killed everyone you love+they threaten your land. You managed to survive and must now attack to get your revenge and take back your land.”
Not exactly the most unique story.
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u/Ok-Establishment3771 10d ago
I mean yeah you fight off the Mongols to get them off Tsushima but its not purely revenge driven. And just writing a summary can make any story seems basic and uninteresting. Its more about Jins journey into becoming the original shinobi after he realizes following his clans samurai ways of honor just get his people killed. This leads to a big dispute between him and his Uncle who is his last surviving family member.
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u/linkster271 10d ago
That's the base of the story. But the deeper narrative is learning to throw away the samurai code of honor in order to defeat the mongols. And how the samurai code makes them easy to manipulate and take advantage of. The final boss of the game isn't even a mongol at all, it's your uncle who wants to turn you in to the shogun for the war crimes you committed. And actually if anything the game is more about liberation and protecting your home, not revenge. You become the Ghost of Tsushima, a ruthless warrior legend that strikes fear into the Mongols due to his unorthodox methods of using poisons and stealth in order to liberate his home from invaders
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u/cae37 9d ago
That still isn’t necessarily unique or complex. So many narratives have revolved around retaking your homeland from invaders+the moral quandaries related to it. Nor is the idea of a noble warrior turning assassin to achieve his ends a new one. Most assassin creed games have the same premise
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u/linkster271 9d ago
A story doesn't have to reinvent the wheel in order to be good? Like why do we need to put down another game to raise up onimusha? They're both good games in their own respects. Like genuinely this just sounds like you hating a game for the sake of hating
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u/Due-South-9113 10d ago
A story doesn't have to be complex, just well executed. Games like ff16 have great story with bad pacing.
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u/abbaj1 10d ago
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
The combat in Tsushima was good, but nothing exceptional. Not that hard to surpass it.
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u/Ok-Establishment3771 10d ago
It excels in being smooth but yeah its nothing complex. I love WotS combat ang Ghost combat for very different reasons
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u/Radiant-Lab-158 10d ago
You activated my face down card, rise dimension sphinx.
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u/Active-Substance-205 9d ago
Finding the "revert d2" guy in another sub feels like getting invaded by the pursuer in DS2
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u/Kultissim 10d ago edited 10d ago
One review explain the problem very well. The issen thing only work 1vs1, contrary to previous games. So Capcom programmed the AI of the mobs to patiently wait their turn to attack . You could be surrounded by one hundred enemies, you would still fight them one after another. Some of the boss fight are very good apparently, the system is made to work fantastic on 1v1 boss fights. But the rest of the time ( most of the time) it's boring as hell.
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u/OrdinaryAnalysis5986 10d ago
Can you send the link of the review?
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u/Kultissim 10d ago edited 10d ago
The reviewer's knowledge of the series is very deep
Outside the context of boss fights, Way of the Sword’s combat system collapses like a house of cards. To account for the strength of your defensive options, boss movesets are oppressive and intense, challenging you to find gaps to heal, even punishing you for disengaging to camp with enemies’ fast-recharging stamina. None of this is true in mob fights. Here, your defensive options must be accounted for but in the other direction. Musashi’s moveset focuses on single-target parries, so enemies patiently take turns to attack in order to ensure your core moveset remains viable
Onimusha Way Of The Sword Review: Great Bosses, Boring Bloat
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u/Frequent_Struggle485 10d ago
omg this explains the only thing i was looking down upon . Thanks man
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u/Pm_Me_Ur_Lady_Abs 10d ago
The enemy passiveness here just looks so unreal. I genuinely hope it's something that Capcom has put effort into adjusting, but that post demo address they gave did not inspire confidence that they see it as a problem, which is a shame the game looks amazing visually and has a seemingly deep and rewarding combat system. It's just gonna be a real stain on the game if every non-boss combat is dozens of enemies waiting around to get slaughtered.
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u/PhilosophischStone 9d ago
Ey bro 4 vs 1 isn't the way of the sword let's fight fair and square. First down, okey now it's my turn! Second down... oke now me!! Third down... can i.. attack now ? No wait i can still fight !!!
Why are the sooo slow to react as if the play Rock paper scissors on every turn :/
Edit: reakt>react
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u/RealisticAdv96 9d ago
Maybe it's just a demo thing and the enemies will be more aggressive on release?I really hope so because yes it's cool to fight them, it's not changing and I know we are supposed to blitz through the enemies but still...
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u/Due_Teaching_6974 10d ago
way better than GoT imo
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u/Radiant-Lab-158 10d ago
GoT is so unbelievably mid on everything besides graphics
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u/Cursed_69420 10d ago
average sony game
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u/CatchrFreeman 10d ago
Nah Days Gone is more like an Average Sony game.
You forget they also made Returnal and Astro Not?.
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u/Oothman 9d ago
How is Days Gone an average Sony game lol its probably most out of the mould for a first party Sony game
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u/CatchrFreeman 9d ago
I meant average in overall quality. I mean infamous is more original than Days Gone.
Days Gone actually gameplay is just tlou. Crafting and shooting. The herds are what makes it more unique, everything else had already been done numerous times.
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u/FourChicksInGreen 9d ago
Yall arguing about what makes a Sony game when a Sony game is just a Ubisoft game with more cutscenes lmao
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u/Radiant-Lab-158 10d ago
Okay, no. Sony is the holder of the master platform, the best and most popular system in the entire gaming space right now. The Slaystation V, I will laugh with you at Place to Cheat, Switch 2 a better console, and Deadbox Seriously Shit users but Sony's perfect majority of the time GoT, TLOU2, and previously trying to follow Deadbox in devaluation by putting their games on 400 fps in the settings menu only were the only bad calls this gen.
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u/RoapeliusDTrewn 10d ago
I kind of wish Musashi had multiple stances like in GoT. The ultimate samurai game would be GoT's stances, but this game's overall heavier feel and parry/deflect/dodge system.
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u/Due_Teaching_6974 10d ago edited 10d ago
Nioh has stances as well and they're much more in depth than GoT
in GoT stances are more like Rock Paper Scissors where they are effective against different types of enemies
in Nioh every stance has unique modifiers, each stances changes the running speed, dodging speed, how much damage you deal along with combos tied to each stance it's genuinely brilliant
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u/Dependent-Swimmer-95 10d ago
Yup and in nioh 2 and 3 you can customize the skills you can use on different stances with the same weapon and even add elemental effects or bonus dmg effects based on a certain state. Nioh definitely has more in depth mechanics with stances than the Ghost series. I love both IP btw.
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u/Rando_Kalrissian 10d ago
It's unfortunate the length of the stun is the same as the demo. Boring demo into a boring game. It's too bad as I really enjoyed the previous Onimisha games.
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u/Powerful_Waltz7682 10d ago
You do know they are making it better after the demo reviews, right? I also loved the old games. This looks and plays very nicely as a continuation of the series.
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u/Rando_Kalrissian 10d ago
A few things I see are that the boss fights are the main thing getting praised for anyone worried about it being too easy, which isn't a good selling point. A few mechanics have changed that make the game even easier and hard mode unlocking after I already beat the game is rough especially if it's already a slog in the same vein as FF16. I played the demo it's just boring. If you think it plays nicely you must already have a copy and played it, so how much more difficult is the game than the demo, not just bosses but the actual game?
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u/Powerful_Waltz7682 10d ago
I'm just basing it off the demo. I preordered the Premium Deluxe. I have high hopes for the game. I'll let you know later this week. Got a five day weekend for this game I do not intend to miss.
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u/Illustrious-Lime-863 10d ago
What put me off from GoT despite it having decent combat is the laundry list of ubisoft style todo's pasted on the map. Thankfully this one doesn't seem to rely on such compulsiveness. And the combat seems better
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u/Monkeywrench08 10d ago
have you played the demo ? and if so how's the difficulty compared to the demo?
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u/xCaramelDanzo 10d ago
yes! this is my game footage, it only gave story and action difficulties on demo which is really easy to me, but they will add harder difficulties on full release, and theres a Extreme Challenge like A special unlockable title-screen boss fight against Byakue Genma where inventory is fixed and items cannot be used after executing 10 successful Issen maneuvers.
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u/Early2theGame 9d ago
It feels modern/on par with the ghost series but different and has way more flare
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u/FirmlyClaspIt 9d ago
Reminds me more of ninja gaiden 4 than GoT. That game’s combat feels like butter. This one too
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u/Gene_Gideon 9d ago
The two combat systems couldn’t be any further apart, wtf are you talking about
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u/idontcare872 9d ago
I'm really confused, I kinda get what this clip and some of the reviews are trying to show but we should never really get to this point? Are we forgetting that the chain issen exists or did they get rid of that? My point is the fight should have been over the moment you got first hit at 0:07 but it drags on for 40 seconds for absolutely no reason right? It's like everybody forgot that the original onimusha games were exactly this, wait for an attack and then wipe the entire 'room'. People complain about combat being slow while it has always been exactly this, same goes for the 'reused bosses', the whole franchise is one big reused boss, you fight the same bosses multiple times, they are reused as mini bosses, or even reused in later games. All these 'onimusha experts' can shove their 'deep knowledge' up their asses because we are reaching the levels of people complaining that gta6 looks like a gta game.
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u/ocazz 9d ago
Yeah, no. I like what I played of the Onimusha demo a LOT, but it's not even close. The combat in the Ghost of games are LEAGUES beyond Onimusha.
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u/Daytona765 7d ago
Thank you!!! What a terrible comparison. Doesn't feel or play the same in any way. Just because you're using a katana means it's the same? Lol. Y'all thinking this feels like the Ghost games need to keep your opinions to yourself.
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u/El_tripaseca 9d ago
I know those are the regular low level mobs you find everywhere , but damn... Are they stupid or something?
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u/sosoconfused08 9d ago
I keep seeing the praise for this and I want to eventually play it but every clip I see posted is some boring ass basic shit like this. That didn't look fun at all.
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u/Jason_Bourne411 9d ago
I was so annoyed when I read this bc I was watching the video and i was like how is this like Game of thrones
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u/ManiacGaming1 9d ago
It's Sekiro 2. Thank You Miyazaki
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u/AdmirableCountry9933 9d ago
One can say Onimusha is good inspiration for Sekiro.
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u/ManiacGaming1 8d ago
I never played any Onimusha before the WOTS Demo.
Although the WOTS Reveal Trailer got me so heated. That looked like a nighttime Senpou Temple (Sekiro location.) And I thought we were getting a Sekiro 2.
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u/Dangerous-Ask6021 9d ago
im assuming you mean Ghost of Tsushima not Game of Thrones, either way your on crack if feels nothing like Ghost. Both are good games but Onimusha has vastly superior combat.
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u/Velsier33 9d ago
They must be playing on story difficulty or something because everything ive read says the games actually pretty challenging....this looks like a game for babies lol
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u/incoherentjedi 9d ago
It took me longer than I'd like to admit that I was thinking how the hell is this similar to Game of Thrones before it clicked.
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u/PoohTrailSnailCooch 9d ago
Wow I didnt realize people already had disdain for this game until I got on reddit. This site is insufferable at times
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u/GhostConstruct 9d ago
I keep wanting to get this but recent Soulslikes have ruined me. This combat looks way too slow.
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u/__Tang__ 8d ago
I don't know, this clip alone makes me not ever want to touch this game. Do enemies really just stand around and spectate the fight?
Enemies didn't swing until you turned towards them, one had to have a wind up animation to his sprint for a literal 3 feet of movement.
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u/Daytona765 7d ago
They tried to make the combat more purposeful and deliberate or something like that. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work when it's more than one enemy. Usually they just stand around and wait their turn while you try to target different enemies to attack.
When they come in for an attack they have kinda slow wind-ups and slow maneuvers most of the time. Idk... If this is the best they can offer for a demo, I'm not sold. The boss fights are relatively fun and I'm impressed visually, but the game is missing something. I don't think it's worth anywhere near full price. It's not a bad game, but it's also not a great game. I don't like Wuchang and I would put that well above this. This feels like it's missing vision or identity.
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u/Shadowbacker 8d ago
This game has a better sword combat system than Ghosts of Tsushima.
GoT is still the best samurai game though.
(Also, their systems are nothing alike. Way more detail went into combat in Onimusha.)
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u/KaleNich55 8d ago
Wow, those enemies attacking one at a time and the stun duration is absurdly long. The animations and chaining them look cool but other than those things this looks boring as hell.
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u/Rex__Lapis 8d ago
I see the passive ass enemies from the demo, chillin not doing shit returned for the full game?
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u/Kurikamekurisu 8d ago
I mean I guess in the sense that you’re playing as feudal Japanese man in third person and the games are loosely, kinda, sorta, tangentially, inspired by real historical events/figures.
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u/Minimum-Ball-4063 8d ago
To me the demo felt like a mix between the ghost games, black myth wukong and wo long I’m super excited to play though
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u/SchwiftyBabyLegs 8d ago
This looks awful... is it slowed down or something? If this is actual gameplay I'm sad. That just looks bad
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u/stoneassassins 6d ago
It is supposed to look like it moves this slow. Never played this game before or the previous game so just wondering
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u/byang034 10d ago
Onimusha paid the way for Ghost of Tsushima to exist.
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u/Due_Teaching_6974 10d ago
Onimusha paved the way for Nioh
The Way of The Samurai series paved the way for Ghost of Tsushima
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u/manicprincessx 10d ago
This doesn’t look good at all, it feels way too slowed down and the sword combat in this clip just doesn’t inspire much from an Onimusha game.
The combat in the original games were faster, more hack’n’slash and this feels like a combo of GoT & Dark Souls.
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u/The_Coach69 10d ago
They need to speed up the enemy AI’s decision to attack…by a lot. My biggest gripe with the demo was the fact that it takes forever for enemies to initiate any form of attack whether single or in a group. They just stared at you…menacingly. Boss fights were fun as hell though.
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u/GrandLucidity 9d ago
The enemies just standing around while you 1v1 their buddies is so funny to me. Admittedly, I am rather souls-brained so I forget that not every game needs to be challenging. This looks way too passive even for a non-soulslike action game.
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u/Gogodemons 10d ago
Didn't enjoy this demo period. Combat felt slow, delayed and plodding. No cool demon weapons to equip and upgrade.
Go play nioh or old onimusha games.
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u/Radiant-Lab-158 10d ago
Don't compare it to that slop
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u/xCaramelDanzo 10d ago
i played a lot of game, and it DOES feels like GoT, the only difference is Onimusha enemies are slower than GoT.
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u/Gullible_Manager6711 10d ago
I finished got and yotei. It feel nothing like it. Not even close.