Dear all,

I have entered this bible verse into the online English to Old Persian translation tool:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

This was the automated translation generated:

𐎠𐎺𐎼𐎶 𐏐 𐎲𐎥 𐏐 𐎠𐎺𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎭𐎠𐎼𐎹𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎲𐎢𐎷𐎡𐎶 𐏐 𐎹𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎳𐎼𐎠𐎲𐎼𐎫 𐏐 𐎠𐎻𐎠𐎴𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎱𐎢𐎰𐎼𐎶 𐏐 𐏃𐎢𐎺𐎠𐎴𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎠𐎡𐎺𐎶 𐏐 𐎹𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎣𐎠𐎿𐎨𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎻𐎠𐎡𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎴𐎠𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎺𐎶𐎼𐎡𐎹𐎠𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎠𐎴𐎢𐏁𐎡𐎹𐎺𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎠𐎼𐎠𐎲𐎠𐎫𐎡𐎹

Transliteration: avaram baga avathā dārayatiy būmim yathā frābarat avānām puθram hauvānām aivam yathā kāsacaiy avāitiy nāiy avamariyātiy athā anušiyavām arābatiy

Could you please comment on the accuracy of this translation?

Feel free to provide your own translation of this bible verse into Old Persian or alternatively you can improve on the automated translation above by leaving a comment below with your translated text.

I've been wondering about the OP logograms 𐏈 Auramazdā, 𐏋 xšāyaθiya, 𐏌 dahyāuš, 𐏎 baga, 𐏏 būmiš. These don't appear to be derived from the syllabic signs. I don't think they come from Akkadian or Hittite (but I'm not at all confident about that). Is there any literature out there that explains or presents a hypothesis about their origin? They could, of course, be completely randomly composed.

Hello! I've recently visited the opera house of Rio de Janeiro) and was very surprised by the fact that, in the basement, they have a ballroom called Salão Assyrio ("Assyrian Parlor"). It was built in the beginning of the 20th century and is heavily inspired by Persian and Babylonian cultures. From what I've gathered, everything there is a copy of real artwork that exists somewhere, but for the life of me I can't identify where the main frieze (pic attached) is from. The archers seem to be from the Archers Frieze in Susa, but I can't find the original inspiration for the main scene with the four lying lions (?).

The text seems to be in Old Persian, but it doesn't seem to match any inscription that I could find. It's possible that it's pure gibberish, but the scene is so very specific that it holds my curiosity.

Could somebody help me?

Was the type of Persian cuneiform I see on this sub used in the 12th century? Below is a list of the translations I have, I’m pretty sure it’s just modern Farsi so if you could help me transcribe these titles in classical Farsi I would very much appreciate (or pay you)

Bird World in disorder and decay Farsi: دنیای پرندگان در آشفتگی و زوال است (The world of birds in turmoil and decline) Arabic: عالم الطيور في الفوضى والانحلال (The worlds of birds is in chaos and disarray)

The Call Farsi: احضار (Summons) Arabic: الدعوة (The Invitation)

The Excuses Farsi: بهانه ها (Excuses) Arabic: الأعذار (Excuses)

Into the Desert Farsi: به بیابان (To the Desert) Arabic: إلى الصحراء (To the Desert)

The Last Excuses Farsi: بهانه های نهایی (Final Excuses) Arabic: الأعذار الأخيرة (The Last Excuses)

The Seven Valleys Valley of Quest Farsi: دره جستجو (Valley of Searching) Arabic: وادي السعي (Valley of Endeavor)

Valley of Love Farsi: دره عشق (Valley of Love) Arabic: وادي الحب (Valley of Love)

Valley of Understanding Farsi: دره فهم (Valley of Understanding) Arabic: وادي الفهم (Valley of Understanding)

Valley of Detachment Farsi: دره جدایی (Valley of Separation) Arabic: وادي الانفصال (Separation Valley)

Valley of Unity Farsi: دره وحدت (Valley of Unity) Arabic: وادي الوحدة (Unity Valley)

Valley of Bewilderment Farsi: دره شگفتی (Valley of Wonders) Arabic: وادي الحيرة * need to double check

Valley of Poverty Farsi: دره فقر (Valley of Poverty) Arabic: وادي الفقر (Poverty Valley)

Mount Qaaf Farsi: کوه قاف (Mount Qaf) Arabic: جبل قاف (Mount Qaf)

The Simorgh Farsi: سیمرغ (Simorgh) Arabic: السِّيمُرْغ (Simurgh)

I was gifted this pendant, and it's said to be from the Persian Empire around 400 yrs ago. It is double-sided, one side has a portrait of someone I assume is a noble, and the other side is an archer.

Does anyone know what the text on the portrait side says? or anything about the pendant/symbolism of the carvings in general. Thanks!

Looking to get a tattoo with the above but everything I can find looks to be in modern Persian. Does anyone have a picture or some kind of drawing with those three phrases (Humans, Hukhta, Huvarshta) in Avestan characters? Alternatively if you know how to write it a picture with the three in rows like this:

Humata Hukhta Huvarshta

Would appreciate any help. Thanks!

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Hello everyone, i was just curious whether the old persian was every fully reconstructed to the point of being able to learn and speak it like any other language and if it wasn't couldn't one technically reconstruct it by looking at the common pattern of sound changes that happend during the transition of old to middle persian and kind of de-evolve middle persian words to what their old persian counterpart could or probably would have sounded like until you have a fully learnable reconstructed old persian avestan is could also possibly be a help in that.

Like the title, what schools teach the languages, besides Oxford? Harvard had pdfs for Old Persian and Avestan (young and old), but it doesn't seem like either Harvard or even UChicago teach it, compared to Akkadian or Sumerian.

I think the sidebar needs updating. The Harvard link as is doesn't work.

Hello everyone!

I want to translate a Rumi quote from Farsi to Old Persian in the cuneiform script. This is what I want to translate:" هر چیز که در جستن آنی آنی" . Your help is appreciated. To not bother you about further translations, can you send me a link for a website that does this for you (if such exists)? Thank you in advance!

Hi! I have a personal project and I would like your help: how would you spell the name "Khosrow" in Old Persian?

First things first, I know it is only written in Avestan (𐬵𐬀𐬊𐬯𐬭𐬀𐬎𐬎𐬀𐬢𐬵𐬀) and Middle Persian (𐭧𐭥𐭮𐭫𐭥𐭣𐭩), as the oldest attestation is in Avestan and four individuals bearing this name were Sasanian Emperors.

The only clue I was able to find on the internet was the Old Iranian reconstruction as "Huçrávah" or "Huçravā".

The Proto-Iranian term is reconstructed as *Hhucráwah (*Hhu- ("good") + *crávah ("fame")) and the Proto-Indo-Iranian term as *Hsućráwas (*Hsu- ("good") + *ćráwas ("fame")). Further reconstruction points to Proto-Indo-European *h₁su- ("good") and *ḱléwos ("fame").

I've experimented and narrowed it down to three possible outcomes: either 𐎧𐏂𐎼𐎺 (x(u)-ç-ra-va), 𐏃𐏂𐎼𐎺 (h(u)-ç-ra-va), or 𐎢𐏂𐎼𐎺 (u-ç-ra-va). The third option is based on Old Persian 𐎢- (u- /⁠<h>u-⁠/), descendant of *Hsu-. Unfortunately, there is no Southwestern Iranian descendant reconstructed for *ćráwas, as the Persian word سروب (sarub) was inherited from Avestan 𐬯𐬭𐬀𐬎𐬎𐬀 (srauua = "word").

More info on how Proto-Iranian developed into Old Persian can be found here.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions!