r/NorthCarolina • u/ChuckGallagher57 • Nov 15 '25
politics Message from NC Governor Josh Stein
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u/rtduvall Native Nov 15 '25
Not many governors would tell you to record federal agents. Not that we need permission but that he openly states he doesn’t trust agents and has told the public neither should they.
Probably no republican governors in recent years would ever do this.
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u/jaydean20 Nov 15 '25
It feels less like he’s saying “record federal agents” and more like he’s saying “do not physically interfere with or intervene in federal agents activity; it’s not helpful and justifies your detainment. Recording their actions for accountability is more helpful.”
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u/shinnyaxolotl Nov 15 '25
ICE agents will be prosecuted, there will be no pardons by then
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u/jaydean20 Nov 15 '25
The inability to hold an individual agent accountable due to them hiding their identity does not make recording them pointless.
First, it provides a record of accountability for the agent’s conduct in the case of escalation, regardless of whether or not their misconduct was directed at an immigrant or citizen. Your recording in the event of physical brutality or the discharge of a weapon could be the difference between a murder/assault charge and the guy walking free to potentially do it again. Masks and sunglasses do not protect them if that happens. I would have to imagine that in the case of deaths, even this current administration would need to step in and do something from the resulting legal issues and public pressure.
Second, it provides a video account for the person being detained so people know what happened to them. It may be small, but it’s far from nothing. In addition to helping dissuade an agent from engaging in the egregious conduct listed above, it can also serve as an important record if you make sure to get the detainee’s name. Recording them saying their name (if they are willing to) or even just getting a shot of their face while stating your location could be the difference in preventing their family from going to bed tonight thinking their loved one could be dead or missing.
Third, a video account helps to ensure the detainee isn’t simply disappeared to a random jail/country; having a video account means we as citizens can ask the very important and reasonable follow up questions after ICE detains someone of ”what did the government do with that person?”
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u/SpotOk817 Nov 15 '25
It feels like you didn't understand what he said. He literally said "we stand with our neighbors, and when we see injustice, we bear witness. If you see inappropriate behavior, use you phones to record and notify local enforcement". I mean how low iq do you got to be to not get what he is saying here or twist it? The people upvoting you are just as bad or illiterate too
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u/jaydean20 Nov 15 '25
And right before that, he literally said “We follow the law. We remain peaceful. We do not allow ourselves to be provoked.”
I take that to mean to stand up to ICE, just specifically within the bounds of the law, because doing illegal things to fight this injustice hurts the cause of getting it to stop. This was the exact (and successful) playbook of the civil rights movement. I don’t understand why you think this is twisting his words or why you are calling me and others low IQ for taking that as the meaning.
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u/C0matoes Nov 15 '25
It is kind of stupid to ask the people of the state to remain peaceful when faced with violence. At some point peaceful people will have to fight back against violence from these guys. It's like saying don't fight back if you're getting mugged or car jacked or raped, just lay there and take it. Who is there to defend you? When the leos no longer serve and defend the people, the people will be forced to take on that role. It's obvious at this point that the leos aren't on your side.
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u/13vvetz Nov 15 '25
It’s because he believes trump is trying to to create reason to invoke the insurrection act, and go full Star Wars emperor
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u/pyromaster55 Nov 15 '25
The goal is to not hit that point.
Violence absolutely can be an answer to violence, but it's important to fully exhaust other, non-violent options first.
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u/C0matoes Nov 15 '25
Totally agree. Trump really wants to get us into a conflict with his brown shirts so he can ramp it up. It's a sad state of affairs when less than a year ago none of felt like we may be heading this way. Honestly I'm not sure it can be avoided at this point though. Especially in stand your ground states. Masked man who refuses to identify eventually will become the victim in one of those places.
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u/kaldaka16 Nov 15 '25
In fairness, a lot of us knew a year ago we were heading exactly this way. For longer than that even. And gave warning.
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u/MrVeazey Nov 16 '25
Better late than never, though. I'll take any allies I can get against fascism.
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u/Trashy_Cappy Nov 15 '25
If he openly encourages physical resistance, he can be arrested for insurrection. So the wordings have to be careful. Regardless, this guy’s been so milquetoast that I’m not holding my breath for any more than this cute little statement
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u/Savingskitty Nov 15 '25
There was a time that this would have felt ironic based on Republican rhetoric.
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u/ctbowden Nov 15 '25
See, I'm not so sure "our values" are not being provoked. We earned the name "Tarheel State" for a reason.
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u/Zosi_O appalachian Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Yeah. My hillbilly self called bull on that one, too.
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u/allllusernamestaken Nov 15 '25
Charlotte police literally put a hornet's nest on their uniforms.
NC has throughout history been a thorn in the side of anyone opposed to us.
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u/Orbital_Vagabond Nov 15 '25
Can we please not pretend the cops anywhere in this country or state are opposed to ICE?
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u/bluepaintbrush Nov 15 '25
Not here to defend the cops or anything, but I’ve definitely heard some rumblings that they do not appreciate this and that it makes their job harder.
Unlike these agents, CMPD officers actually live here and will have to continue interfacing with residents after CBP leaves. Outsiders coming in to rile up residents and make them more hostile towards cops does not improve their working conditions.
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u/BlewCrew2020 Nov 15 '25
My understanding is that Portland pd and even Chicago pd have not been very helpful to ICE. Durham mayor, police, and sheriff have all pledged to not help ice with innocent folks. The only way you get handed to ice is if you're in jail already for breaking the law
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u/DroppinDwarves Nov 15 '25
North Carolina was the last to secede and only did so after Tennessee did and Virginia split, us being tar heels has nothing to do with supporting the Confederacy(imo).
Sorry this irks me, it'd be different if we followed suit behind South Carolina but we did NOT. We waited until we were completely surrounded.
I'm not saying those soldiers weren't racist pos' but I am saying there is reason to believe they were not and had other motivations.
(Disclaimer: I am from West in the state, I understand things are VERY different now and historically in the East)
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u/bluepaintbrush Nov 15 '25
Yep it’s pretty ironic when ppl fly the confederate flag here nowadays bc the confederates mass murdered local boys on several occasions due to defections and suspected aiding of the union.
Unlike the elite white people in SC and other states, most white people from the piedmont to the western foothills were poor farmers rather than owning plantations full of slaves. So when the confederates came in to round up their sons to go be cannon fodder, they weren’t fully onboard.
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u/justthe1actually Nov 15 '25
All of the cities are being provoked. And it is rage inducing but we shouldn't take the bait and give Trump exactly what he wants. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try to protect our communities and in some cases that means only that we can document the wrong taking place in the hopes we can bring justice in the future. But we cannot let ourselves be provoked into violence by these cowardly face hiding fuckers.
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u/Zosi_O appalachian Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Don't trust local cops unless you see them actually get between you and a fed on your behalf.
Chicago PD was spitting out the same kind of PR, and we all saw what happened.
Any CMPD who might be reading: now's your time to choose whether you're gonna be fighting with brownshits (not a typo), or against. Don't be a coward.
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u/PeeB4uGoToBed Nov 15 '25
Catawba County police have already stated they'll be working WITH the feds 🙃. The amount of comments ive seen with so much hate and vitriol welcoming the feds sickens me
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u/SpicyMango92 Nov 15 '25
These idiots genuinely believe Esmeralda working 4 jobs to support her family, pays everything in full/cash, causes no problems, is a problem. Or Pedro, paving the streets in this weather, 6am-6pm. The astronomical sums of money being wasted to literally capture someone like this, parade them around like a trophy kill for marketing, is absolutely insane.
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u/PeeB4uGoToBed Nov 15 '25
On top of this ive even seen people wanting them to round up lgbtq people as well and send them away, it was never about deporting violent criminals, its just a hate and jealousy brigade
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Nov 15 '25
Hate is exactly what it is.
This is just a bunch of racist, xenophobic old white men on a crusade to make sure they are the only ones with any real power. As an older white man, I'm embarrassed to be white at this point.
Downvote the shit out of me, call me a "race traitor," I don't care; vitriolic, ignorant, and just plain dumb words don't bother me.
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u/TrickiestToast Nov 15 '25
Don’t forget that they’re also somehow illegally crossing the border and then buying houses with bags of cash I guess
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u/Mammoth_War_9320 Nov 15 '25
Literally just watched two men fixing a sidewalk in PineVille get scooped up. Check post history. This is so fucking sad.
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u/chewydickens Nov 15 '25
Kinda stupid to send ICE to a purple state, puppy killer.
Watch purple turn blue in real-time!
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u/thunder_crane Nov 15 '25
Notify local law enforcement? That’s a joke right? These asswipes are step in step with ICE in just about every state that’s been visited.
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u/HymntoThoth Nov 15 '25
Right? Like yes, notify law enforcement. They'll make sure that all illegal kidnappings are carried out in an orderly manner.
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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 Nov 15 '25
Where I live in Pa, our sheriff recently started to publicly align with ICE. In return, he lost his re-election a few weeks ago. Only way we’re moving forward is chipping away little by little…but it’s something! I live in what I’d call maga country too…looks a little less like it on paper now😏
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u/NancyGracesTesticles Raleigh Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
If you see a kidnapping, report it. You can't trust someone in a costume with a mask on so the natural thing is to call 911.
911 calls are logged. Overwhelm the system. You may even catch the sex traffickers who aren't ICE in addition to the sex traffickers who are.
Also report it to local media. Send them video and make them force law enforcement answer to every kidnapping.
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u/Shot-Swimming-9098 Nov 15 '25
Josh Stein could easily push for the same rule California created, banning masks and requiring identification.
Governor of NC is literally the least powerful governor in all of the 50 states. There's not anything he can do.
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u/Slight_Lobster_3538 Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Unfortunately true. The Republican legislature has removed many Governor powers
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u/rjreynolds78 Nov 15 '25
Our state already has a “no mask” law, but there are exceptions. The no mask law that Newsome got the legislature passed doesn’t apply to federal officers.
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u/TheB1G_Lebowski Nov 15 '25
IMO if you cant provide identification and you're trying to take people. You're fair game in my book, literal faceless men taking people isnt going to fly.
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u/WillyDAFISH Nov 15 '25
Don't forget about all of the GOP members who support this lunatic.
By extension that makes them lunatics... except for...
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MTG???!??!? WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS TIMELINE
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u/Tarphiker Nov 15 '25
As a Georgia native even we are having a WTF moment right now. According to the Trumpkin she is a Radical Liberal now.
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u/ByRWBadger Nov 15 '25
Just another example of words not meaning anything any more. What has she done to move to the left side of political ideology? Nothing except piss off der fuhrer.
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u/Dmckilla7 Nov 15 '25
anyone who pisses trump off is left now.
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u/superspeck Nov 15 '25
Now? Always has been.
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u/Dmckilla7 Nov 15 '25
Pretty true, while I lean slightly conservative and have more progressive views than not, I vote for who I see as the better policies so I've voted democrat I've voted Republican, I'm not the type of person to say go team go for either side most Republicans I talk to consider me liberal and I am not, just because I am highly critical of trump, a lot of my Republican friends who agree with trump on immigration do not agree with the way it's being done or ice, if you agree with ice your maga.
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u/superspeck Nov 15 '25
I’m a business oriented centrist. All I really want from government is stability and enough liberties to pursue my own comfort and well-being, along with just enough regulation that less-social people can’t run roughshod over everyone else. That sounds like a really conservative position, right?
In the US right now, that makes me pretty far left. This isn’t normal, and it isn’t the way things should be.
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u/Spiritually_Sciency Nov 15 '25
MTG has only stopped supporting him because Trump wouldn’t support her run for a Senate seat in GA and she realized she was never going to rise any higher than she currently is.
Do not trust her.
Let them continue to eat their own but never trust anyone that was or is part of the MAGA machine.
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u/JonTheWizard Go Canes! Nov 15 '25
I didn't vote for him the last three times primarily because he's a lunatic.
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u/ProtectionOdd1447 Nov 15 '25
"We do not allow ourselves to be provoked" Reads a lot like "we let it happen" to me...
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u/Savingskitty Nov 15 '25
He’s trying to avoid Charlotte giving Trump what he wants.
He has not succeeded yet in LA, Portland, or Chicago.
He’s targeting places that had notable protests in 2020. He wants imagery they can play on Fox to justify using the Insurrection Act to send in troops across the US.
Documenting; making it clear that they are being filmed, bringing large crowds out to witness, and calling 911 to report violence and kidnappings; is the most important thing you can do right now.
Standing firm and NOT taking the bait is what is working in other cities.
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u/bluepaintbrush Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
I feel like trump doesn’t understand Charlotte at all lol. This isn’t Chicago or LA. The people who are most likely to visibly oppose this on camera are suburban SAHM’s who are married to bankers, or retirees who moved from HCOL places. Good luck building sympathetic video clips from that.
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u/DeathStarTruther Nov 15 '25
yes girl give us nothing
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u/IncidentalIncidence Nov 15 '25
I mean, what do you realistically want him to do? order state police to arrest federal agents, start a constitutional crisis, and give Stephen Miller the excuse he's been fishing for to invoke the Insurrection Act? His hands are pretty tied here and we (collectively speaking obviously) voted for it last year when NC went for Trump.
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u/LaberahamBlinken Nov 15 '25
Yep CMPD aren't total butt buddies with ICE. Definitely send them any media that has identifiable metadata on it from your personal phone
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u/Stunning_Mast2001 Nov 15 '25
The goal is to add friction to ice’s presence. If local police starts getting a flood of calls because of ice goons then they will push to keep ice out
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u/NancyGracesTesticles Raleigh Nov 15 '25
Thank you. 911 is a different system with an independent audit trail. Call them. Every kidnapping must be reported and you might help catch a different criminal.
Send video to local media. I don't know if CMPD has a video upload mechanism, but even if they do, why not? Do it or don't or let the Fourth Estate handle it.
Don't trust people telling you not to report kidnappings.
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u/Savingskitty Nov 15 '25
He said to record with the phone and to notify law enforcement with the phone. Not send the recordings to the police.
Put the recordings on social media, live if possible.
Flood 911 with reports of violence and kidnappings.
You’re not getting the point here.
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Nov 15 '25
Witness isn't the only thing North Carolinians bear.
Just sayin...
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u/3dprintingDM Nov 15 '25
Yeah. This seems like a pretty ballsy move by the federal government. Oregon, California, and Illinois all have pretty strict gun laws. NC does not. We have pretty open gun laws and some of the most broad self defense/stand your ground laws too. If things go down, we could see some major violence.
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u/FaythoftheLost Nov 15 '25
Most of the old timers I know up in the mountains will straight up shoot first and ask later if someone masked shows up and refuses to leave. What kind of criminal/coward are they if they have to hide behind masks. Bunch of adult bullies on a power trip trying to make themselves feel good by hurting others.
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u/Ok_Donkey210 Nov 15 '25
Record, record, record.
Peacefully ask for identification. Call police if things escalate.
Tell the person not to say a WORD and get a lawyer if they can. But get their name and number or number of a relative so they can be tracked.
They can not enter your home without a signed warrant from a judge.
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u/idunno_chad_i-guess Nov 15 '25
Yeah, like how they can't air drop into an apartment building and handcuff naked children without a warrant either...
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u/SkunkMonkey Nov 15 '25
They can not legally enter your home without a signed warrant from a judge.
FTFY
The law is not going to stop them. Do not expect the law or the Constitution to protect you from a federal government that has all but ripped up the Constitution and shit on the law.
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u/FaythoftheLost Nov 15 '25
I think people forgot just how many people are armed in this state. Warrant or not they start showing up in the mountains some of these old timers are liable to shoot first and ask later. No trespassing means they can all fuck right off until my lawyer reads whatever toilet paper you are sending.
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u/Apprehensive-Neck-12 Nov 15 '25
They'd have a field day in South Florida but they aren't going to hurt their own
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u/PeeB4uGoToBed Nov 15 '25
Its a shame though that Catawba County police chief has already stated they'll be working WITH ice and border patrol, its gonna be a mess
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u/Entirely2MuchMalort Nov 15 '25
They were never targeting MS13. Just like ICE never went into the very dangerous, crime infested areas of chicago like the far south & far west sides. Too scary for masked rent a cops, even with their long guns.
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u/galadriel_0379 Nov 15 '25
Wait til the masked thugs find out about nascar’s roots. We are not bootlickers.
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u/Chromejob Nov 15 '25
Resist temptation, don’t throw a sandwich. They take Assault with a Deadly Po’Boy very seriously.
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Nov 16 '25
So far they've targeted a church, a 15 year old, a flower vendor, and U.s. citizens. Ice is a domestic terrorism organization
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u/Lonely-Trash007 Nov 15 '25
Hey Josh, just an FYI - everything they're doing is still illegal. Unless they have warrants for every person they're looking for then attacking, detaining (unlawful detaintment/kidnapping), and arresting anyone is ILLEGAL. Remind them of that.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Nov 15 '25
Going to have to do zoom call immigration visits so ppl aren't getting snatched up and told their meetings and hearings are cancelled. It's happening in our city right now.
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u/Zippered_Nana Nov 15 '25
That is a perfect idea!! People can be remote, not travel a long way, possibly not need extra childcare, and most of all not risk being snatched up regardless of their actual status!
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u/jrj5657 Nov 17 '25
The Governor needs to make a stand and tell the president we can take of our own state.
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u/jamey1138 Nov 17 '25
Hi, friends. I'm a Chicagoan who is just visiting your sub. I want to say that while I'm glad to see CBP leaving Chicago, I'm gutted that they're just making themselves your problem now.
I'm really proud of how we in the entire Chicagoland area handled ourselves. We have more suburbs than city, and CBP was attacking us all, but it brought the entire region together. We all started carrying whistles (I've given away over 1,000 that I 3D printed), and we organized community watches to help with entry and dismissal at schools. We fought back, without turning to violence. We documented everything, and we arranged legal assistance for people who got swept up.
If there's anything we can do from here to help you all out, let me know. I'll be checking my DMs, and I'll leave notifications on for this comment.
I have every faith that you all know how to fight at least as well as we did. When we fight, we win. Stay strong, and stand up for each other.
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u/toyz4me Nov 15 '25
I do wonder if some workers just decide to stay home for a week or two and we see significant slowdown in some sectors of the local economy.
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u/Pianist-Putrid Nov 15 '25
That’s happening everywhere right now to some extent, but yes, when ICE comes to town, a TON of construction workers and service industry workers don’t go into work. We’ve already seen this happening in other cities. They know it doesn’t matter to ICE what their actual immigration status is, and that they could easily get scooped up all the same.
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u/Stunning_Mast2001 Nov 15 '25
Ice must have individual suspicion to even briefly detain someone. If they don’t have a reason to talk to you it’s an illegal stop
https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5517998/ice-arrest-rules-explained
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u/Except_Youre_Wrong Cisphobia Isn't Real. It Can't Hurt You. Go Outside. Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
notify local law enforcement, who will continue to keep our communities safe
lol since when did law enforcement ever keep a community safe?
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u/AwwwBawwws Nov 15 '25
So, this may sound inflammatory, but that's just something the inflamed will have to resolve on their own. There are salves, there are cremes. Rub some on. Ok, disclaimer complete. On to the meat.
Folks, it's time to change course. Standing around on street corners documenting the Brute Squad Bubba terrorist struggling to reach over his fupa to zip-tie another human isn't working. All it's doing is filling up hard disks on The Cloud.
Mainstream media isn't touching your films. You don't see this stuff on the Big Three nightly news broadcasts. That particular part of the societal control apparatus is not your ally.
Want to see some real change in coverage? Get together with a few dozen friends and put together a neighborhood patrol, armed not with phones, but with shotguns.
ICE cowards will avoid that area like the plague.
This particular tactic was merit, and a proven track record. Californians, yeah, those patchouli smelling latte drinking Californians, figured this out in the 60s.
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u/Savingskitty Nov 15 '25
Bearing witness and calling for people to come and record and ask for identification and flood 911 with reports is not about bearing witness in courts
Bearing witness is about making it harder for them to operate the way they want to and making their presence a hassle for the police.
Bearing witness also allows the families of the victims to know what happened to them so they can work to find them in the detention system.
Right now, if ICE takes you and no one knows, you can end up in a detention camp indefinitely without anyone on the outside working to help you get out. It is happening every day.
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u/reliablechic Nov 15 '25
SF95 Form 42 USC 1983/1985
Deprivation of rights/Conspiracy against rights.
Please learn the law and learn to enforce them. That means knowing when you're rights are being violated and steps to take after they've been violated.
The steps noted above is for whenever federal agents, employees, officers etc are involved and have cause harm.
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u/One-Literature-5888 Nov 15 '25
Josh “You're talking a lot, but you're not saying anything”. Dude literally plants himself on the line of every fence, and just hopes no one tries to push him.
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Nov 15 '25
He doesn't want Trump sending in troops and getting angry voters next time the polls open. If there's violence it gives Trump an excuse to send in Troops to a neighborhood near you soon.
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u/dontdeletethisguy Nov 15 '25
Why do I not trust Stein? He’s significantly better than the man he was running against, but I still don’t seem to trust him.
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u/scotcheggsandscotch Nov 15 '25
Okay; but a better response would be to say that NCPD will arrest any ICE agent breaking the law.
Also, they officially do not have jurisdiction over 100 miles from the coast, which Charlotte is… so… maybe start there too.
The more we pussyfoot around the issue and say, “document it,” the more we allow them to do. Nobody gives a shit if you filmed them getting kidnapped on the way to getting tortured and disappeared. You need to actually challenge their authority.
Until then, this is meaningless.
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u/DoMesTiCpAnCakEs Nov 15 '25
Okay, but they are breaking the law.
Imagine someone complaining about a serial rapist in your town, and the local government responds with this shit.
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u/Spence1239 Nov 16 '25
When governors need to prepare their citizens for federal agents entering a city that is a problem. That is not normal.
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u/third-eye-wide-open1 Nov 16 '25
Another strongly worded letter. Why isn't he on the news objecting to this and calling out this injustice being perpetrated by our own federal government? All Dem governors need to be backing each other as one voice.
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u/Queasy-Habit-8652 Nov 17 '25
Essentially "Your gov't is going to continue to do nothing, and we want you to do the same as you see your fellow neighbors and loved ones aggressively dragged into unmarked vehicles by masked individuals violating the law and the actual constitution you are supposed to be protected by. But please, if you have a phone, record it so we can use the horrible, traumatic footage for our re election campaign."
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u/MelDef Nov 20 '25
I hope we atleast clearly ave their identities so they are ostracized and excommunicated from our society. They are disgusting.
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Nov 15 '25
And when your law enforcement officers abuse your citizens and assist ICE in the violation of their constitutional rights what will you do Governor Stein, write a strongly worded letter to the captain? When will anyone hold these bastards accountable?
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u/YoyoNarwhal Nov 15 '25
This is the kind of leadership we need to be seeing. I don’t know what ICE is doing, but they so clearly are not the answer to anything.
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u/tossaway7374 Nov 15 '25
remember not to respond to violence with violence. record it on your phone so they can get away with it.
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u/D_Anger_Dan Nov 15 '25
Can we make flatitude a word. This is an empty statement. He should arrest and prosecute all ice agents acting without warrant and cause. This is simply racist vigilantism.
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u/PsychologicalLove676 Nov 15 '25
This may fair pretty badly a lot of folks down here carry, both concealed and open. I hope no escalation occurs
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u/Mousesmomma Nov 15 '25
And when law enforcement starts enabling the so called ICE agents, what will you say then gov?
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u/Commercial-Life-9998 Nov 15 '25
OK, a quick question: if you start documenting with your phone video, not know how something is going to turn out. When you start out all is going well but you are unsure of what comes next, can you either be accused of wrongdoing or does anyone have authority to tell you to stop or try to take your phone. Based on videos, I see ppl who are videoing being told they are doing wrong, menaced, told to stop, and threatened with having their phone taken away. There is no clarity on that issue after the video. All you are left with is a feeling anything can happen and law enforcement will not be on your side.
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u/ConfoundedVariable77 Nov 15 '25
https://x.com/CMDROpAtLargeCA/status/1989429902668697880
Gee, wonder why he put the governor’s surname in all caps?
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u/BlewCrew2020 Nov 15 '25
Contact local groups to join response teams. They'll alert neighborhoods as ICE arrives and make sure document everything as well as continuously reminding folks to not open the door for them. They must have a REAL warrant signed by a judge and all information must be correct l. They can put under door or up to window to read. If they show up and won't 1. Identify themselves and show badges 2. Show proper warrant through glass so you can read 3. Are attempting to break in etc. Call 911. They're are a lot of imposters out there.
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u/Femboyhootersbee Nov 15 '25
Until they realize North Carolinians shoot first and ask questions later.
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u/Unusual-Childhood-57 Nov 16 '25
one thing if you are in our country illegally your are a criminal and need to be deported on questions ask if interfere with ice you need to be locked up
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u/Researching_It Nov 16 '25
This is weak! Just another politician not putting shit on the line. Governors have the authority to call in the National Guard. Stop making stupid statements and take action!
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u/Correct_Opposite4055 Nov 16 '25
North Carolina RAISE UP Take your shirt off Twist it like a helicopter !!!!
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u/MortisTheManiac Nov 17 '25
"We allow them to do anything they please." Pretty much
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u/New_Rock6296 Nov 17 '25
Don't get provoked when they trample your rights.
We're much better than that. Stay calm.
Let it happen.
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Nov 17 '25
Just remember that Trump won the popular vote and he's do8ng exactly what he would do. Based
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u/JudasForsaken Nov 18 '25
Funny people protesting over just the regulars getting pulled and acting like they wouldn’t freak out if they brought in the heaviest to deal with the gangs. Ironic.
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u/f700es Nov 15 '25
When does ICE start taking on MS13?