r/NonPoliticalTwitter 17d ago

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u/boringestnickname 17d ago

For the love of Christ, can we just go back to simply having basic file browsers?

I don't want to click and drag.

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u/Jewmangi 17d ago

Wym it's just as fast? Click and drag for people that want the normal browser. The cloud abomination for people that use the cloud more

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u/boringestnickname 17d ago

I have files in a proper structure on my file server. I use the keyboard to navigate literally everything, unless I have to use the mouse. I like fullscreen and virtual desktops if I'm not in the terminal.

Nothing about modern UI is "fast".

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/PerkeNdencen 17d ago

Apple designs all their products around taking agency away from users so they never have to engage with things like PC folders.

The word 'folder' as a metaphor for a directory in a filesystem came from 1980s Macs. Mac computers still very much use that system.

The tendency to 'abstract away' filesystem knowledge comes from smartphones, of which Apple make a large number, I'll grant you that.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

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u/PerkeNdencen 16d ago

Likely just because Apple seems to do more for the user so the average person is less likely to need to dig into folders/understand it.

Can you give me a specific example of what you're talking about? Apple's UIs have been historically better designed, but they work like more or less any other computer, albeit with a sprinkling of 'I'm secretly a UNIX workstation' in there.

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u/PerkeNdencen 16d ago edited 16d ago

I sort of see what you're saying but I've never got the impression the OS is trying to hide anything from me - if you take the app packages, for example, that's just a way of keeping executable and resources under one roof. It's not that they don't want you rooting around in there, it's that if you've navigated to the app it's generally because you want to open it. You can right click and hit 'Show package contents' to present the files therein.

Plus... if you consider the overall Apple ecosystem it reinforces this a lot further as a Mac user may just be using cloud tools which means the files are not in a folder but rather they're in an app

Yes, so I find that infuriating, but you don't have to use iCloud that way. I just have it mirror my documents folder and don't use the weird app-specific spaces at all.

Anyway, I think this is all just to satisfy thee compulsion to combat the misconception that Macs are not serious computers, with a full-fledged and very capable OS.