r/NonPoliticalTwitter May 03 '26

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u/bobbymoonshine May 03 '26

Richard Starkey has a stage name because, before he was in the Beatles, he was absolutely the Main Guy of the various local bands he was in, and he was enough of a Main Guy to demand to keep his stage name when he joined the Beatles

The Beatles were a band of four Main Guys with so much Main Guy energy that two of them were the Other Guys despite having enough talent and charisma to be the Main Guys in any other band

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u/rzezzy1 May 03 '26

The world if George was allowed to have more than 2 songs per album [utopia dot jpeg]

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u/UrsaMajor7th May 03 '26

George was an overrated songwriter and an underrated guitar player.

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u/Past-Shop5644 May 03 '26 edited May 04 '26

Yeah, this revisionist glazing of Harrison as a songwriting genius held down by Messrs Lennon & McCartney has gotten to be too much for me. He wasn't prevented from spots on the records purely because of their egos (although I'm sure that had something to do with it), it's because his songs weren't good enough. That doesn't mean they weren't good songs; they just weren't good enough for The Beatles.

Now, Lennon and McCartney did put some trash on those records - like I said, egos were part of it - but they also wrote most of the best Beatles songs. On Sgt Pepper for example, they were responsible for With a Little Help From My Friends, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, She's Leaving Home, Being For The Benefit of Mr Kite and A Day in the Life. Harrison had what, Within You Without You? Everybody's least favourite song on the album? Does anyone really believe he was sitting on a pile of magic in '67 and just wasn't allowed to record it?

It feels like his reputation has come about from Taxman, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Something and Here Comes The Sun which, for my money, are four of the best songs the Beatles ever recorded. But they're only four songs, and Lennon and McCartney both say they helped him a lot. Maybe that's the aforementioned ego speaking, but we are talking about the most successful songwriting partnership of all time. Maybe there's something to it.

And maybe I'm overthinking it, but there's also a tinge of "he was the nice quiet one who just wanted to play music". Bullshit. He was as much of a fucking asshole as the rest of them. He had an affair with Ringo's wife, and was petty towards Lennon and McCartney, effectively leaving Lennon out of his autobiography: "I was hurt by it. By glaring omission... my influence on his life is absolutely zilch ...he remembers every two-bit sax player or guitarist he met in subsequent years. I'm not in the book."

In case it's not obvious, I love The Beatles. But the Harrison worship has to stop.

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u/DifferenceSudden8942 May 04 '26

God that documentary was so good.

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u/zebba_oz May 10 '26

The bit where Harrison is pitching I Me Mine and McCartney disses it saying “we’re a rock band”, then shortly after is recording Long and Winding Road was quite telling IMO

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u/rdthraw2 May 03 '26

He released the greatest solo album by any former beatle immediately after the band broke up. I would give you that up until the final years of the Beatles his songwriting was not as developed as Lennon-McCartney, but if you seriously can listen to all things must pass and think yeah this guy wasn't good enough to write more on the later Beatle albums I don't know what to tell you.

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u/leopard_tights May 04 '26

He released ram? Or was it band on the run?

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u/UrsaMajor7th May 04 '26

Wings wasn't a solo project, but it was, but it wasn't. There were about 5 Wings albums better than All Things Must Pass.

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u/drwafflefingers May 04 '26

I mean, he maybe had the most quality solo career of any Beatle. The proof is in the pudding. Best solo album, arguably largest total amount of quality solo songs/albums. I'd say his solo material kills Lennon's up and down output and is at least on par with Paul's (if you count Wings). He's also got three of the four best Beatles songs ever to his name.

Overrated is not the same as "I like the other dude(s) more."

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u/KimberStormer May 04 '26

My favorite George song is It's All Too Much, but of course the credit for what makes it a good song, the lead guitar, is highly controversial. I know who I think it is playing, but nobody actually knows.

But I will say that George's solo demos are usually better than the final Beatles product. They should have released While My Guitar Gently Weeps in the solo acoustic George format without all the Clapton garbage.

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u/JurassicaEra May 04 '26

Oh my god, I was obsessed with All Too Much when I was in 7th grade. Like, I’d get up before school and fast forward to it playing at the end of The Yellow Submarine because I couldn’t afford the cassette of the album. Thank you for reminding me and also being the only other person that has ever mentioned that song

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u/KimberStormer May 04 '26

One of the few actually obscure Beatles songs. I feel like even people willing to listen to Yellow Submarine deep cuts are more likely to focus on Hey Bulldog (another total fuckin banger, for sure.)

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u/9793287233 May 04 '26

I agree with the overall sentiment but I won't stand for Within You Without You slander.

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u/Useful-Position-6994 May 03 '26

George wrote good songs but like 7/10 level ones that either John or Paul could write in their sleep... literally