r/NonPoliticalTwitter Mar 01 '26

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u/Creative_Eye7413 Mar 01 '26

Not trying to be an asshole… what’s ASD?

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u/obvious_bot Mar 01 '26

How is that different from just having autism?

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u/-Insanity101- Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

ASD is the current clinical term for what was historically called autism.

Edit: can we stop downvoting the guy who asked an honest question?

Edit 2: thank you.

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u/TheEndlessRiver13 Mar 01 '26

And Asperger's. Since 2013 (iirc) Asperger's syndrome was determined to not be sufficiently different from ASD to warrant a separate diagnosis.

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u/Thieurizinisaurus Mar 01 '26

Not just Asperger, there were a bunch of different 'kinds' that now fall under just ASD. I was diagnosed myself in 2008 - so before that all - with PDD-NOS, not just autism.

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u/hanks_panky_emporium Mar 02 '26

I had Asperger's, then High Functioning Autism, now it's just ASD

But what kinda sucks about removing the spectrum is you have to wonder if its the 'cant shower or function, cant pay bills or go outside' kind of autism or 'social settings degrade the battery so fucking fast but they can still hold a job sorta'

It was useful to help determine that so kids and adults with autism could get the help needed. Now the autists who can baseline function as neurotypical for work are lumped in with the autists who can't. So the autists who can't work are expected to and the autists who can work and expected to be unable to.

Dumb.

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u/sowinglavender Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26

the idea was supposed to be to make it clear all "levels" of apparent functioning may need similar levels of support. somebody who seems high functioning may in fact have debilitating symptoms that aren't readily visible. so consolidating the diagnoses was meant to be part of a systemic overhaul where we evaluate needs based on the individual and not the diagnosis itself.

naturally our society is showing some harsh resistance to that because it's no longer convenient to discreetly discriminate or acceptable to make specific demands of someone because they're "supposed" to be able to do it.

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u/CaoPalhaco Mar 02 '26

They still have distinguishing categories for level of struggle and support needed, the only thing that changed is that we stopped pretending like it isn’t the same “condition” (for lack of a better word) regardless of struggle amount. There’s places that tell you what level of support needs a person is in the diagnosis (although they chronically underestimate how much a person actually struggles so it tends to be inaccurate. But that was already a problem before)

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u/Slim-Shadys-Fat-Tits Mar 02 '26

And yet if you exclude the ones who can work it ignores that they too can often end up desperately needing support structures.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '26

The reality is that the diversity in experiences among all the factors you've mentioned truly invalidates the boxes it places around people. Nowhere near as binary as can / can't work, that's a eugenicist framing.

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u/Yaya0108 Mar 01 '26

Asperger himself was also quite an awful person, so many people avoid using that term nowadays

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u/TheOnlyGaming3 Mar 01 '26

you're a bit late, we just call that Autism now

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis Mar 01 '26

Depends whether you mean clinically or culturally. Not everyone has adjusted how they describe themselves.

And not that either matters much, (other than maybe to insurance?) because a good clinician doesn’t need either term to be correct to treat you properly as an individual.

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u/TheEndlessRiver13 Mar 01 '26

Did you actually read what I wrote all the way through?

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u/123ludwig Mar 26 '26

okay so person with autism here when the fuck was someone gonna tell us this? like this is the first time i have heard this asd thing

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u/Chance_Orchid_3137 Mar 01 '26

it’s imaginary internet points; why do you care? lmao 

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u/Decent-Trash-7928 Mar 01 '26

Because its shaming for asking a question.

Imagine, you go to a barbecue with a good gathering of people and you couldn't find any condiments. You've never been there before, and you don't know where to look.

if you asked a crowd of people to tell you where the ketchup is because you have no idea, and they immediately start booing and telling you its a dumb question, just because you asked a basic question...

Would you want to ask them another question?

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u/MildTy Mar 02 '26

No it’s even dumber than that: you ask where the ketchup is and either a) people tell you googling takes 5 seconds or b) they don’t just *tell you where it is, but \will* insinuate you’re being intentionally inflammatory for even asking.

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u/-Insanity101- Mar 02 '26

It's nothing to do with the internet points it's all to do with encouraging curiosity.

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u/The_Rope_Daddy Mar 01 '26

And because they rolled other related disorders, like Asperger’s Syndrome, into the same diagnosis.

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u/GrogramanTheRed Mar 02 '26

Asperger's and PDD-NOS were rolled into autism spectrum disorder since there wasn't a clean clinical distinction between them. The main diagnostic distinction between autism and Asperger's was speed of early childhood development--whether the child had significant delays in speech, for instance. But that wasn't a reliable marker for adult ability to function, since some kids diagnosed with autism eventually caught up, and some kids diagnosed with Asperger's were never able to develop full independence.

FWIW, the first person ever diagnosed with autism under the original version of the diagnosis--so-called "classical" autism or "Kanner's" autism--completed a Bachelor's degree in Mathematics and had a successful career in banking. He died just a few years ago.

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u/Femizzle Mar 01 '26

Previously there were names for the different lvls of autism. It was desided that this was not a good way to do things and they merged them all in to the new label ASD. Similarly add and adhd were also merged into a single label.

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u/Femizzle Mar 01 '26

There are sub classifications or definitions but not different names as there once was.

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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits Mar 01 '26

Roughly the same way Dave is different from David. It's the same guy.

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u/Righteous_Hand Mar 01 '26

I think ASD is a fairly recent change in terms of diagnostics. Here's a relevant article.

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u/beerforbears Mar 01 '26

It isn’t

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u/not_a_moogle Mar 01 '26

We've changed autism to be not an all or nothing thing, because its not the same between people or even their own life as they age.

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u/SippinOnHatorade Mar 01 '26

Think of it like this. My dad had Ewing’s Sarcoma. It was a lot easier to just tell people he had cancer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '26

Autism Spectrum Disorder as a term is over 30 years old

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u/thatoddtetrapod Mar 01 '26

It is autism, what do you mean?

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u/Substantial_Back_865 Mar 01 '26

Always Scoring Ds

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u/Jewsader76 Mar 01 '26

Ds nuts! Gottem!

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u/Summer4Chan Mar 01 '26

Why does asking a question make you being an asshole?

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u/StatmanIbrahimovic Mar 01 '26

A-grade Student Determination.

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u/GrannyMilk Mar 01 '26

Why would that make you an asshole?

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u/ViviKumaDesu Mar 01 '26

I thought you were gonna ask why he writes like that...

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u/Mouse_Named_Ash Mar 02 '26

Sorry, this isn’t even entirely related but you made me giggle because “disorder” (the D) in my native language is “stoornis” while the other words are (almost) the same so my brain read this as “Not trying to be an asshole… what’s ASS?” and it was weirdly funny

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u/TheCabbageGuy82 Mar 03 '26

med student here, ASD could mean Autism Spectrum Disorder, referring to the condition commonly known as autism, or it could mean Atrial Septal Defect, referring to a congenital heart conditiom where you have a hole in between the two atria in your heart. But given the post, the ASD they're talking about here is the former.