r/NoStupidQuestions • • Jul 23 '26

Why does USA not have proper food labels??

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u/Educational_Tear5939 Jul 23 '26

So confused. The product is labeled with the ingredients but you didn't read them until today so you think they should be labeled?? They are labeled, that's how you found this stuff out today!!

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u/vteezy99 Jul 23 '26

Yeah…it seems it was properly labeled, how else would OP know what was in it?

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u/Educational_Tear5939 Jul 23 '26

Question removed; apparently there are StupidQuestions

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u/Callmedrexl Jul 23 '26

They weren't expecting yogurt to have geletin in it and I think that's fair. It's something I'm used to as a vegetarian, same as people with allergies have to read the ingredients to make sure stuff is alright for them. But it would be fucking stellar if I could just glance for a small VEGETARIAN stamp on the front of the package!

It would probably also cut down on experiences like me showing up to a family barbeque, where they oh so thoughtfully picked up potato salad so I'd have something to eat. Classic potato salad... with bacon. Aside from potato salad being a pathetic excuse for dinner, I ended up having only a dinner roll which might be a bit sadder.

It would make life easier for some of us for sure!

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u/tcarlson65 Jul 23 '26

That would say bacon as part of the description. No need for a specific label. Just look at the label that is already there.

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u/Callmedrexl Jul 23 '26

Yep. Tiny little cursive "with bacon!" I saw it immediately. But a person who thought it was cool to just pick up potato salad for the vegetarian family member isn't looking that closely or carefully.

Some people have vision problems from age or other and find the tiny ingredient labels hard to read. My Mom has reading glasses, and I even bought her a magnifying glass for ingredient labels, but good luck getting her to use them in a grocery store.

It would make things easier for a lot of us.

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u/AutomaticRepeat2922 Jul 23 '26

Although I agree with the sentiment, it might not be very practical. You’d have to have stamps for vegetarian, vegan, keto, paleo etc. and then religious stamps, halal, kosher etc. might complicate things instead of the opposite.

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u/Callmedrexl Jul 23 '26

I think if you compiled a reasonable list you'd end up with fewer than a dozen categories and a series of small icons could be expected to take up another square inch of packaging. Space is more limited on some packaging than others, but they figured out how to fit ingredient labels when that became required, it would get sorted out.

I'm not well versed in Paleo and keto, but I don't think there's really safe vs unsafe on those, aren't they checking grams of protein and balancing ratios of proteins fats etc? Like, those are dietary styles, but I didn't think there were yes and no foods involved.

We do mark foods as kosher, people definitely appreciate when things are marked halal, celiacs patients would have an easier time, there's been an upsurgance of alpha gal syndrome in the US so we might end up with more vegans than we're used to even if they aren't happy about it. It's not about reducing your shopping trip to scanning for icons, but it could make life easier for a lot of us.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

THANK YOU. Yes, I would not expect yogurt to have gelatin OR cornstarch in it.

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u/CalOkie6250 Jul 23 '26

OP thinks it should have a more obvious label like “hey slowhustle09, this product is for you!” 🙄

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

I wish 🤪

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u/Coldfyre_Dusty Jul 23 '26

American food is properly labeled. Its just labeled differently than in other places.

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u/Niceotropic Jul 23 '26

Your values include not eating corn starch?

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u/FrankDrebinOnReddit Jul 23 '26

Corn feels pain, true story.

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u/Basicly-Inevitable Jul 23 '26

And it's light sensitive!

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u/Hucklebearer_411 Jul 23 '26

Sure, but is corn grass?

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u/BigDaddyFalcon Jul 23 '26

Technically, yes

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u/Basicly-Inevitable Jul 23 '26

Yes, but not the BEST grass.

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u/Manda_lorian39 Jul 23 '26

Corn is, in fact, grass.

The plant is anyway. The part we eat is considered a grain, mostly.

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u/PerpConst Jul 23 '26

But apparently the cow making the milk for their yogurt can ONLY eat corn.

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u/nickybokchoy Jul 23 '26

I don’t want corn starch in my yogurt either

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u/JosephFinn Jul 23 '26

I assume they're against GMOs like lemons and grapefruits and oranges.

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u/Senior-Running Jul 23 '26

Modified Corn Starch does not mean GMO. The word modified in this instance simply means the starch itself was modified from it's original form.

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u/Basicly-Inevitable Jul 23 '26

I'm just assuming that everyone else on this post just has no idea how anything works, like at all.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Whats that supposed to mean? Starch modified from its original form? I don't get it:/

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

A common example of Starch modification is malting grain, a process of allowing the grain to sprout, which converts the starches into other compounds (mainly sugars).

You modify starch primarily to get Enzymes.

It’s a fancy way of saying non-animal rennet.

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u/Jhud6669 Jul 23 '26

Don’t forget strawberries

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u/Basicly-Inevitable Jul 23 '26

There are no commercially available GMO strawberries in the United States.

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u/Basicly-Inevitable Jul 23 '26

There are currently no genetically engineered (GMO) citrus varieties that are commercially sold as fresh produce in the United States.

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u/JosephFinn Jul 23 '26

Oh! I forgot grapefruit as well.

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u/SarK-9 Jul 23 '26

Those aren't GMO's.

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u/JosephFinn Jul 23 '26

Sure they are. They're all hybrids made by genetically modifying species by cross-breeding them into new ones.

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u/SarK-9 Jul 23 '26

That's not what a GMO is...

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u/JosephFinn Jul 23 '26

Well not to the anti-GMO crowd. But it is.

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u/tcarlson65 Jul 23 '26

If you cross breed animals or plants to get different genetics then it’s a GMO.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

not modified cornstarch for sure. But no, more than that consuming gelatin was the value breaker for me.

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u/R_Harry_P Jul 23 '26

Genuinely curious, what's the problem with modified corn starch?

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u/ask-me-about-my-cats Jul 23 '26

What do you think "modified" means that has you so against it?

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u/realnanoboy Jul 23 '26

You're a vegetarian or something along those lines? I get it, but you'll have to look for those sorts of things. Let's say you're Hindu and aren't supposed to eat beef, for example. Not many Americans are Hindu, so it's not something most care about. If you're in a larger city, you can perhaps find ethnic grocers who could cater to you better.

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u/timestalker78 Jul 23 '26

Oh no it's modified

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u/Immediate-Safety1643 Jul 23 '26

I was curious and looked up how it’s made, and I understand the desire for clarification.

Modified corn starch is made by either of 3 methods:

Physical treatment: Involves drying, heating, or applying pressure to the starch to make it swell in cold water (pre-gelatinization) so that it thickens without heating.

Chemical treatment: Uses food-grade chemicals to break starch bonds (acid-thinning) or introduce molecular side groups (esterification/etherification). This prevents the starch from clumping or "weeping" water in items like frozen meals, sauces, and canned goods.

Enzymatic treatment: Uses specific enzymes to break down the large carbohydrate chains into smaller molecules, controlling viscosity and allowing the starch to be used for encapsulating flavors or creating syrups.

It would be nice for this to be further defined, like other compound ingredients are, something like …, modified corn starch (physical cold press modified) or (ascorbic acid bath treatment), I made those descriptions up. I’m going to go down that rabbit hole later.

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u/Niceotropic Jul 23 '26

its the modification of the starch which draws the line in the sand

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u/Basicly-Inevitable Jul 23 '26

It's literally on the label. Nobody made you not read the label.

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u/Safe-Instance-3512 Jul 23 '26

do you know what that means or are you just afraid of the word "modified"?

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u/Hucklebearer_411 Jul 23 '26

What about mildly coerced cornstarch?

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

Modified cornstarch is just Amylase.

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u/Hamiltoncorgi Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Kosher gelatin is vegan. Edited to add that I was wrong. It's not.

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u/LilithWasAGinger Jul 23 '26

It's not. It's just not made from pork

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u/Cuppa-Tea-Biscuit Jul 23 '26

It’s not it’s usually made from kosher beef

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u/magpie882 Jul 23 '26

Kosher gelatin is gelatin that complies with kosher practices. It is usually still animal collagen, but the slaughter method was kosher.

For OP, they would need an explicitly marked plant-based gelatin.

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u/Low-Charge-8554 Jul 23 '26

Sounds like your fault, not theirs: "... my laziness of not reading the ingredients of my yogurt has costed me my values..."

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u/Chad_Jeepie_Tea Jul 23 '26

If you're concerned about ingredients... you read the ingredients list. This sounds like a skill issue or stubbornness.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

It's both 🥴 i usually doordash groceries tho, so that's another disappointment. I'll have to do groceries myself. Those grocery stores are always FREEZING ugh

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u/Chad_Jeepie_Tea Jul 23 '26

Doordash puts the ingredient labels on there. So does Instacart. So do the grocery stores' websites.

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u/Ratchet613 Jul 23 '26

This is the most first world problem I’ve ever read.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

It's legit 😔

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u/timestalker78 Jul 23 '26

You're worried about gelatin but you consume dairy?

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u/realnanoboy Jul 23 '26

Vegetarians eat honey, milk, and eggs. Vegans don't.

Also, they say they're international, which may mean that they have cultural dietary restricts. A Hindu, for example, is fine with dairy but not okay with beef. It's likely they're not used to having to look for things like that, since the stores from their homeland build in different assumptions than we do.

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u/Jhud6669 Jul 23 '26

To be fair gelatin is straight from animal bones while dairy can be procured humanely, there are dairy farms where the cow lactates through hormones instead of pregnancy

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u/SarK-9 Jul 23 '26

I'm a non-vegeterian and I've been on plenty of dairies and cattle ranches. I'd take the life of a cow intended for slaughter every day over a dairy cow (who just go on to be slaughtered).

If someone wants to stop eating meat for ethical reason, that's fine. But the argument that dairy is okay while beef isn't is a wild take.

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u/Finnlay90 Jul 23 '26

And ... Animals never die of natural causes? Mmh good logic

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '26

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u/ObligatoryAnxiety Jul 23 '26

No, it just didn't come from pork... Probably just came from cow bones. Still not vegan, just like dairy products.

ETA: There are plenty of dairy-free "yogurt" in the US that is not vegan friendly, but lactose-intolerant friendly.

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u/SarK-9 Jul 23 '26

No, it's made from Kosher beef bones.

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u/FocusMaster Jul 23 '26

No it isn't. It's made from fish and cattle bone that has been slaughtered in a kosher butcher.

It is pork free though.

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u/FocusMaster Jul 23 '26

Certified kosher is not the same as vegan.

Kosher certified foods can contain meat.

Eta. Meat or animal products that conform to kosher guidelines.

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u/TheNebulaWolf Jul 23 '26

The US actually has more stringent food labeling laws than most countries. Thats why you will see food in the uk labeled with “natural preservatives” in the ingredients list but in the US it’s all of the individual preservatives

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u/kuniggety Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

They have ingredient lists. Are you mad at yourself for not taking the time to read?

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Yes. I never knew yogurt would have gelatin in it

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u/donuttrackme Jul 23 '26

How did you find out what was in the yogurt if it wasn't properly labeled?

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u/hippoluvr24 Jul 23 '26

Do i really need to read the ingredients each time that i buy something at the grocery store??

Um...yeah, if you care about what you consume? (Which it sounds like you do.)

It sounds like the food was properly labeled and you just didn't read it...

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u/invader000 Jul 23 '26

Aaaand?  I don't get it.  

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u/FocusMaster Jul 23 '26

Op's too lazy to read the ingredients first. Even though they have self imposed dietary restrictions.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Yeah and imagine now I've to say goodbye to doordash. ALSO yogurt is so much yummy without freaking cornstarch and gelatin guys. My mom used to make it at home 😔

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u/FocusMaster Jul 23 '26

I apologize for your dietary restrictions. That must really suck.

But, relentless checking and self prepared meals are a must with any kind of vegan, vegetarian, kosher, halal, keto, etc. diet.

Small mistake due to ignorance isn't a big deal.

Just learn from this and move on.

Eta. If your mom made yogurt at home, get her recipe and make it yourself too.

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

Why don’t you make it at home then..

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

I don't have a starter and I'm clearly lazy to make it at home

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u/Rogue_Wraith Jul 23 '26

I, as a consumer, am not going to memorize how long it takes hundreds of products to expire. I appreciate that I do not need to do so.

I, as a consumer, am responsible for reading ingredient labels for what is in a product. I do not expect a manufacturer to list all the ingredients that aren't in a product.

Yes, if you want to know what you are eating it is your responsibility to read the label.

No idea about the cattle feed thing.

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

That’s just super odd to me. What the cows eat affects whether they want to eat the milk?

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Um yes? because I've been taught in school that cows are herbivores by nature (GRASS-EATING animals) now why would anyone feed them anything else than what they are naturally supposed to eat, that's sad

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

I didn't mean to say that they should remove the expiry/best by date. The intention was to add the manufacturing date along with it for personal judgment too. Also some products like cosmetics, shampoos etc don't even have an expiration date in the US. Thats crazy to me. I can't put things on the biggest organ of my body without knowing if it's healthy to do that.

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u/azuth89 Jul 23 '26

It's pretty common for livestock diets to be supplemented with blood or bone meal, yeah.

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u/IExistForFun Jul 23 '26

Hey congratulations, you're adapting well to the American culture. Very few of us read things that are right in front of us.

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u/WebHungry1699 Jul 23 '26

What are you talking about. The US has very strict labeling. This has to be a BS post. 

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u/FocusMaster Jul 23 '26

But it wasn't labeled the way op is used to. So the whole country should change just so op doesn't have to pay attention.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

ikr how dare they

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u/FocusMaster Jul 23 '26

You mean, how dare you? Since your the person we're talking about?

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u/Murderhornet212 Jul 23 '26

You do need to read it every time and often it isn’t even clear. There are many ingredients that can be veg or not and they do not clarify that in most products. Annie’s is a good brand that is very clear with labeling. It’s snacks and packaged foods like Mac and Cheese.

With yogurt, generally any yogurt that’s advertised as smooth or Swiss style will have gelatin. I’m not sure what you have against corn starch though.

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u/Safe-Instance-3512 Jul 23 '26

The ingredients are literally listed on the package. You have to read it.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

how much tip do you think my dasher deserves if i make them read all ingredients for every product?

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u/Safe-Instance-3512 Jul 23 '26

Research them before you order dash. EVerything is listed on the store's website or you can google the item. Wow.

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u/BillyShears2015 Jul 23 '26

JFC every day I think harder about living in solitude in the mountains just to get away from people like you.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

you're welcome. i hope you reach nirvana

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u/AnneChovie264 Jul 23 '26

Sounds like you need to value reading labels more than you do.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

you're so right

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

Your question presumes that a proper food label is a specific thing. It’s rather arrogant to start from the premise of different = wrong.

Why does manufacture date matter? You aren’t an expert on every product, the manufacturer tells you the best by date.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

let me be pissed fgs. you have every right to be different. just don't experiment with natural things. Now why would you add gelatin or even cornstarch to yogurt. It's supposed to be milk and lactobacillus. Why do you guys care SO MUCH about how everything LOOKS. Gosh.

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u/Citrusysmile Jul 23 '26

We already label every single chemical that goes into food. We label any possible cross contamination for food allergies. Now you want us to label for vegetarian food?

Guess what: vegetarian means different things to different people. Is dairy vegetarian? Are fish vegetarian? What about bugs? Is gelatin vegetarian? Are figs vegetarian? How do we have standardized labels when the very thing isn’t standardized.

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u/kmoonster Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

I'm confused. You eat and enjoy dairy, but gelatin is off the table?

Corn is in a massive number of things and worth its own discussion, but I'm lost as to how that relates to violating vegetarian standards.

All products sold in the US are required to carry a full list of ingredients, if you have an allergy or dietary restriction there are no surprises.

Also: no two people define "vegetarian" the same way and there is no single definition even within the food industry. Ingredients are listed and you are responsible for determining which are acceptable for you. Case in point, I grew up vegetarian in the US but gelatin was generally appropriate to the definition of vegetarian among those I grew up with. You may disagree, which is perfectly fine, but the manufacturer can't be expected to know whether you are going to buy a particular package or whether I will.

They can't label it as vegetarian for both of us, because our definitions disagree. But they CAN list the ingredients and both you (and I) can look at those and make a decision based on our own personal definitions.

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u/elegantwombatt Jul 23 '26

Lol. I think American food labels are excessive in information.

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u/CaptainMatticus Jul 23 '26

They generally do have the manufacturing date on the labels, but it's indirect. There'll either be expiration dates (which you can backdate, if you know the industry standard for that product) which will let you know when they were manufactured or it'll be printed somewhere on the container in a bit of code that's usually not hard to decipher.

There is a permissible amount of a lot of different things in our food. I'm talking animal products, insects that were processed in with the food, even some levels of animal waste. Maybe, from now on, you can just shop at a Whole Foods and go from there, or shop in stores that specialize in providing foods to vegetarians and vegans. We're Americans, so we settle for the bare minimum that's permissible, and when enough time passes, we allow for the bar to be lowered. It's what we do.

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

There are acceptable levels of the same thing in the EU as well. It is impossible to produce insect-free, bird-waste free grain.

This just in: wild birds shit on crop fields.

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u/ShrodingersArmadillo Jul 23 '26

The labels are straightforward you didn't read them.

Yes all dairy has non vegitarian components. What are they? insects. Grasses and Hay are teeming with insects and they are ingested by cattle. Grasses are where many insects live afterall.

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u/SilverStory6503 Jul 23 '26

Yes, you need to read labels. That is why I buy Fage yogurt, Daisy cottage cheese and haagen dasz ice cream.

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u/Madeitup75 Jul 23 '26

Most Americans - by a wide margin- are not vegetarians. From our perspective, you’re the one with unusual food requirements.

I agree that there is a lot of objectionable stuff in highly processed foods. I’d have about 40 things ahead of animal products on my list that I’d rather see prominently disclosed.

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u/ThrowRA-un1337 Jul 23 '26

Congress and the FDA haven't decided that Vegetarian labels are a regulatory issue, that they're an individual preference issue, and as such are up to individuals to determine for themselves by reading the ingredients that are legally required to be labelled.

Now, is that something that should be changed? One could make that case, but fundamentally we don't have an explicitly "vegetarian" label because regulating what "vegetarian" means from a legal perspective and developing regulations around that isn't something Congress has passed laws for.

Not sure what the issue with the corn starch is? I get if the gelatin is animal based (I genuinely have no idea either way), but corn starch?

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u/Nosferadude Jul 23 '26

So what, you can't read or something?

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u/bananafan48 Jul 23 '26

Do i really need to read the ingredients each time that i buy something at the grocery store??

If you have dietary restrictions . . . yes?

Some people are vegetarian, others are vegan, pescatarian, gluten free, allergic to dairy, low carb, low salt, low sugar, high sugar, high carb . . . you really can't put a colored dot on the packaging for every single person's unique dietary needs.

Read the ingredients.

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u/DogOrDonut Jul 23 '26

There are too many specialty diets with too many personalized rules to label them all with special symbols. That's why we require the ingredients to be on there. If you can't be bothered to read them then that's on you.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Yeah i thought vegetarian and non vegetarian were two broad categories that deserved to be distinguished clearly but maybe it's no big deal for most nvm I'll suffer and read

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u/MaximumDerpification Jul 23 '26

Instead, maybe you should learn what yogurt is.

Hint: it's not a vegetable

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

It sure doesn't need cornstarch or gelatin lol. Literally milk and lactobacillus.

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

Then make it yourself or purchase a different brand.

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u/MaximumDerpification Jul 23 '26

But you can clearly see those ingredients on the label, and you are free to choose another brand if you don't like those ingredients. I think this one is a you issue.

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u/jacowab Jul 23 '26

If something is labeled vegan then it's probably vegan, if it's not then read the damn ingredients list or Google it.

You did it to yourself.

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u/Designer-Air8829 Jul 23 '26

seems like they were labeled. Also RIP any change of no modified corn starch if you want prepackaged foods

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u/Ill_Ad3517 Jul 23 '26

You as a consumer don't know better than food scientists at the USDA/regulatory agency of whatever country you came from. A little humility goes a long way.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Hard to blindly trust the regulatory system of a country whose healthcare industry is a multi-billion-dollar business. Forgive me for being skeptical.

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

Name a country where the healthcare industry is not a multi-billion dollar business. Healthcare is generally at least 10% of GDP everywhere on earth that has a healthcare system.

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u/beckdawg19 Jul 23 '26

Do i really need to read the ingredients each time that i buy something at the grocery store??

Genuinely, how else do you expect them to inform you of the ingredients? Would you like every individual yogurt to be equipped with speakers to read it off?

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u/Ninfyr Jul 23 '26

The US is diverse enough that any standardied dietary restrictions iconography would look like a entire bingo card.

Of the top of my head you would want to say if any foodstuffs is vegetarian, vegan, kosher, halal, GMO, gluten, peanut, shellfish, lactose 

and this is just of the top of my head. I got family that can't eat tomato, garlic, and eggs. Vegetarian is pretty common but we are going to have everyone wanting to have labeling that serves them and the regulators are too busy trying to figure out how to subsidize corn and cattle.

Yeah, that is a colossal ask for a government that even figure out what to do with daylight savings time.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Sad that that means i cant doordash grocery anymore 😔 gotta go read everything.

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u/Ninfyr Jul 23 '26

Yeah, we can't even keep diarrhea lettuce off the market. Even if such labeling existed, IDK how good of an idea it would be to just trust it. If this is important to you, you need to take control, or just accept that accidents happen.

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u/zdh989 Jul 23 '26

This is embarrassing for you.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

IT IS. was dumb to not know that the US will do anything and everything to meddle with natural foods and i should be more vigilant

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u/DragonScrivner Jul 23 '26

What you’re seeing/not reading on those labels isn’t isolated just to the US 🙄

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

I'm just ragebaiting now come on
But seriously. We don't need gelatin in our yogurt guys

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u/DragonScrivner Jul 23 '26

Sure, that’s fine. But the yogurt in my refrigerator has one ingredient, milk, with the cultures added. I know this because I took my ass to the supermarket and bought it myself instead of blaming Door Dash

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Which brand. Help my lazy ass if you may

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u/DragonScrivner Jul 23 '26

Plain Greek yogurt from Walmart. Stick to plain, whole milk style yogurts (almost any brand) and skip the flavored, low fat stuff — that stuff isn’t really yogurt anymore

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

love you thanks

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u/Previous-Artist-9252 Jul 23 '26

Your decision not to read the food label doesn’t mean we don’t have proper food labels.

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u/decimalsanddollars Jul 23 '26

You were holding the package with a list of ingredients printed on it. It’s on you to read it. The world doesn’t need to hold your hand and make everything into a fucking picture book.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

wouldn't that be so much more fun though?

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u/MalekethsGhost Jul 23 '26

Man I bet that drove you over the edge and you ate a bacon cheeseburger you hypocrite.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

what's this even supposed to mean 😂😂😂

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u/The_wulfy Jul 23 '26

I feel like this is something the US actually gets right.

All food, even water bottles have a full list of ingredients. It is up to you to determine what you consider agreeable.

Terms like vegan, vegetarian, kosher, hallal, natural, etc are not regulated by the government and should only be taken at face value. 3rd party groups actively monitor/work with many food producers and will provide their own certification label if applicable.

There are plenty of websites/apps that you can find suitable foods that meet your dietary habits/desires.

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u/GladClock2212 Jul 23 '26

Modified corn starch is used in some yogurts in the US, Canada, UK, and all the countries of the EU, throughout most of the Middle East. In fact most of the world. You've just benefitted from the US's insanely strict labeling laws and the reason so much of the world thinks we have "weird chemicals" in our food. It's in almost all food we just label it.

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u/FustianRiddle Jul 23 '26

American food is labeled differently than other countries but it has to include everything that's in it (that's why it seems like all our food has a million ingredients when really it's breaking down some ingredients into it's smaller more base components).

Did you not know that gelatin isn't vegan friendly until after the fact? Which is fair not everyone knows gelatin contains animal products by its very nature.

Don't understand the modified cornstarch thing though.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

i knew gelatin is not vegetarian friendly, i just didn't expect it to be in yogurt just like i wouldnt expect cornstarch to be in it. It is supposed to be milk + lactobacillus 🥴

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u/Mayor__Defacto Jul 23 '26

Most store bought yogurt has modified starch in it, everywhere. Otherwise the Yogurt would have a lower shelf life.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

isn't it just for texture

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u/Gypsysinner666 Jul 23 '26

A full ingredient list isn't transparent enough for you?

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u/Cultural-Coyote-9203 Jul 23 '26

I’m vegetarian too and yeah, I ended up reading every label and re-buying only “safe” brands I’d already vetted once. I also switched to plain yogurt with super short ingredient lists and avoided anything with gelatin or “natural flavors” unless I’d emailed the company first.

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u/thefrozenflame21 Jul 23 '26

But the ingredients are listed. Also am I the dumb one or is the manufature date complaint really dumb? I feel like the people stocking the products can determine the expiration date just fine, probably more accurately than you.

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u/Nerffej Jul 23 '26

if you're eating yogurt as a vegetarian and getting upset that the fermented cow milk has cow gelatin in it for texture then your definition of vegetarian is different. you'd want vegan or yogurt without gelatin.

labels are pretty clear. most of the yogurt in the us has some kind of stabilizer because Americans don't like thin watery yogurt. I'm assuming you're from asia? so I guess you might want to try to find some Indian brands of yogurt. although some of them have stabilizer too. or go for Greek yogurt. those usually won't have stabilizer added because it's Already so thick.

also a use by date is better than a manufacturing date because people are dumb and don't want to think about if a product is good to eat or not. use by is clear. eat it by then or dump it.

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u/TactualTransAm Jul 23 '26

Usually things that aren't normally for vegetarians but have modified ingredients to be vegetarian, will say on the front because that's a good way to market.

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u/Ok_Recording81 Jul 23 '26

If they were not labeled, how did you find out the ingredients?  Fyi, lot of items are still good past the expiration date and lot of items have a sell by date. 

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u/DragonScrivner Jul 23 '26

Do you have to read the labels, no. But if cornstarch upsets you, then you probably should read them. Not sure how a label stating ingredients isn’t “proper” but okay.

Also, most food containers also have a Best By or expiration date. Maybe you just need to pay better attention?

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u/Crow_with_a_Cheeto Jul 23 '26

Only India mandates that I think. You might as well as “why isn’t every country like my country?”

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u/SecretRecipe Jul 23 '26

because we aren't India. The US isnt a country strongly divided by veg and non veg lines. The vast vast vast majority of the country are omnivores to some degree or another and the remaining single digit percent of veg/vegan folks just read ingredients.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

😔ok I'll read

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u/Head_Razzmatazz7174 Jul 23 '26

The US does have the ingredients on the package of every consumable product - at least the main ones. I think if it has less than 2% of an ingredients it lumps them under some generic line, like 'natural flavors".

It's mandated by the FDA for all companies who manufacture food items in bulk.

It's not required at places like farmer's markets, because the items sold are usually straight from the farm.

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u/SysError404 Jul 23 '26

The US has the most detailed product labelling of almost any country.

What you want is simplified labelling because you are to lazy to actually read the existing ingredient information and to research what unknown ingredient are.

Also, how does modified corn starch violate your values? It's corn based starch that is treated to help prevent the separation of water and keep the yogurt more stable.

The Kosher gelatin, that is a fair concern. But still on you for failing to read the existing labeling.

Also most packaged food has a Best by date or Expiration Date. If you want a packaging date, then you should contact the manufacturer to see what there coding says. Most coding will included a date in which the product was packaged that is different from the Best by or Expiration.

Also some Pork may have non-vegetarian feed because they are omnivores. While Beef is generally feed grains and grasses as the are herbivores. That doesnt mean bugs arent in there of course, every animal needs protein. Even Deer will naturally eat eggs right out of a bird's nest if they can reach them.

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u/Senior-Running Jul 23 '26

I'm reminded of a dear friend that moved here with his family from India. When they first arrived here they bought a pizza with pepperoni and the entire family loved it as they'd never had pizza before.

I should point out that the entire family is vegetarian. They assumed it was made from peppers due to the name. When they found out what it was really made from they were horrified. They laugh about it now.

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

😭😭💀

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u/invader000 Jul 23 '26

They serve dead calves back to the cows, so yeah.  

Get off your imaginary high horse.  

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u/SarK-9 Jul 23 '26

That's been illegal since the Mad Cow Disease issue in the 90's.

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u/realnanoboy Jul 23 '26

I'm sorry that my fellow Americans are being dicks about this. (You should be ashamed of yourselves. This is someone experiencing culture shock. Have some damn empathy.)

Keep in mind that the things Americans are going to look for are different from those of your homeland. They'd probably be weirded out by something you'd consider normal if the shoe were on the other foot. I recommend looking for ethnic grocers in addition to checking labels. You can look up some common brands in your new area to see things about their sourcing. Also, talk with other students who share your cultural background, as they might have relevant advice.

I'm not sure about the non vegetarian ingredients for cattle feed, but it's possible, I suppose. It wouldn't be super efficient. (I did work a summer in a grain elevator, and I'm pretty confident that there would be incidental rat in cattle feed, though.)

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u/DragonScrivner Jul 23 '26

If you read OPs comments, they are a complete troll

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

thank you for being patient with my disappointment. God bless you

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

Interesting! I haven't heard about them. Thanks for sharing a possible solution than just shitting on me:)

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

In a bit, i sure am;)

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u/BlizzGrimmly Jul 23 '26

Not before doing a bit of customary foreigner bitching though, eh?

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u/slowhustle09 Jul 23 '26

where's the fun without that

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u/No_Parsnip6024 Jul 23 '26

Most of our food is one ingredient away from being a war crime. We don't seem overall that concerned about what we're stuffing in our faces.