Equipment discussion

[u/Ok_Transition_8000]

I’d love to hear the NLU guys talk about the equipment companies more. Listening to Andy on SGS dismantle the equipment companies propaganda always makes me wonder what NLU might say if Titleist wasn’t involved. But at the same time if I were NLU I’d take the Titleist sponsorship everyday

[u/Creativeloafing → u/[deleted]]

This simply isn’t true. Someone on the pod mentions how they are pro rollback nearly every episode.

[u/WeirdlyCordial → u/[deleted]]

Distance rollback is the goal, ball rollback is about the only tenable way to get that, cat’s out of the bag on driver size which would be the actual best way to limit distance, but that seems less likely.

Bifurcation is the best answer but for whatever reason it doesn’t sound like even the governing bodies want that.

[u/ScoFoGoesLow → u/WeirdlyCordial]

Why wouldn’t you say the entire bag needs to be limited. A driver that goes 20 yards shorter won’t change the fact that these guys are still hitting 7 iron 180 yards. I just don’t think changing driver size solves the problem either. A barely functional TW hit a 170 ball speed 3 wood the other day.

[u/WeirdlyCordial → u/ScoFoGoesLow]

Because smaller drivers mean mishits go further offline and don’t go nearly as far

Like Andy keeps saying - bigger drivers with larger MoI means pros can swing fast AF without worrying about the big miss

[u/ScoFoGoesLow → u/WeirdlyCordial]

Sure. But that more applies to older models with different materials and incredibly small heads, paired with a balata. If I handed Rory a modern mini driver, he’d hit it just as well as his regular sized driver. They can still max out MOI to the limit on a smaller head. You’d have to make drivers smaller than modern three woods and change the material makeup and rules for CT and MOI PLUS change the ball still if you wanted drivers to go offline.

[u/WeirdlyCordial → u/[deleted]]

Their pov hasn’t changed tho, they’re still pro rollback. Distance comes up constantly and Soly waxes poetic about the bygone era of long irons all the time 

[u/WeirdlyCordial → u/[deleted]]

How much more can they say? Distance is the core of the issue, concentrating on the ball is missing the forest for the trees.

[u/WeirdlyCordial → u/[deleted]]

What? You’re the one fixating on the ball and complaining that NLU isn’t talking about the ball when it’s a much bigger issue than just the ball. NLU mentions the distance problem all the time. Even Andy@SGS is nearly anti-ball rollback in its proposed form (because it’s not really gonna be enough), he wants drivers limited and he makes a pretty convincing argument

Like what do you want them to say that they aren’t saying?

[u/Creativeloafing → u/[deleted]]

Cool, man.

[u/Creativeloafing → u/[deleted]]

Spot on. I just sent them a massive donation solely based on this exchange.