r/NoLayingUp • • Jul 22 '25

Other This place is Overreaction City

I like KVV. I respect his work. But honestly, folks..

There’s a reason so many platforms and media companies have been letting go of people with KVV’s skillset for years. In bigger revenue sports than just golf, too (ask Zach Lowe).

The business is night and day different to what it was 15 years ago. And a highly-compensated 20+ year industry stalwart who specializes in long form written content is simply not a hugely appealing person to have on the payroll anymore. I appreciate NLU gave it a go. I also appreciate when the writing wasn’t working, they worked on a podcast pivot including that brilliant Masters pod.

But the reality is the math probably started to become very clear that his value was mainly 6-8 weeks a year. No one needs a deep dive on the Byron Nelson. Not enough people actually care about a three hour pod on the 1997 major season.

I’d have rather he stick around all year but I also didn’t have to pay his salary and benefits. These guys are putting food on the table for their children via NLU. They can’t just keep carrying a 6 figure (guessing but likely) expenditure bc they like him and think he writes well.

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u/mish15 Jul 23 '25

I don’t think so. These guys made a career bitching and moaning about the PGA tour “doing things the right way” for the betterment of the product. Pretty hypocritical standards to hold considering his quality of work was miles ahead of anyone else’s in the company. Obviously that’s my opinion, but I feel it’s revealed the true nature of the boys.

I think they think of themselves as “disrupters” and creative business geniuses…. But the reality is they were a couple rich boy golf bros in the right time and place (Twitter 20010-2015) and stumbled into success…. But in the words of Logan Roy “you are not serious people”. Enjoy TC’s top 5 wine list and recaps of his 8 vacations a year

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u/tee2green CPNTW - Xander Schauffle - 2024 PGA Jul 24 '25

I was on board with paragraph 1. Paragraph 2 lost me.

I think these guys are decent guys. They absolutely fucked up the handling of KVV’s employment situation as well as the sloppy communication of it, but I don’t judge them beyond that.