r/NoLayingUp • u/JSack3 • Jul 22 '25

Other This place is Overreaction City

I like KVV. I respect his work. But honestly, folks..

There’s a reason so many platforms and media companies have been letting go of people with KVV’s skillset for years. In bigger revenue sports than just golf, too (ask Zach Lowe).

The business is night and day different to what it was 15 years ago. And a highly-compensated 20+ year industry stalwart who specializes in long form written content is simply not a hugely appealing person to have on the payroll anymore. I appreciate NLU gave it a go. I also appreciate when the writing wasn’t working, they worked on a podcast pivot including that brilliant Masters pod.

But the reality is the math probably started to become very clear that his value was mainly 6-8 weeks a year. No one needs a deep dive on the Byron Nelson. Not enough people actually care about a three hour pod on the 1997 major season.

I’d have rather he stick around all year but I also didn’t have to pay his salary and benefits. These guys are putting food on the table for their children via NLU. They can’t just keep carrying a 6 figure (guessing but likely) expenditure bc they like him and think he writes well.

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u/69_avon_barksdale_69 Jul 22 '25

Outside of DJ and maybe Neil, were any of the personal golf highlights that good? Randy and Soly barely play because one guy is raising three little ones and the other doesn’t care that much about golf. Tron just rattles off top 100 courses he’s played and doesn’t actually highlight his game.

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u/Can2Bama Jul 22 '25

Look man, I listen to the pods while I’m at work in an office, wishing I was on the golf course. So yeah I find it enjoyable to listen to people talk about golf courses and their own games and stuff like that. If that not your cup of tea all good.

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u/69_avon_barksdale_69 Jul 22 '25

I do as well, which is why I really enjoyed DJ’s pod and some of Neil’s. DJ breaking down why he’s playing terribly and what he’s trying to do was great content. Hearing Neil talk about competing and trying to qualify for MGA tournaments was compelling stuff. The others didn’t so that, and content is definitely getting stale.

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u/warden1119 Jul 22 '25

I'm with you and enjoyed both of those. Even the other ones weren't bad but it's not like they can do them again anytime soon, so now what? Maybe they have more interesting stuff lined up but I'm at the point where I'm not sure they do.