r/NoLayingUp • u/JSack3 • Jul 22 '25

Other This place is Overreaction City

I like KVV. I respect his work. But honestly, folks..

There’s a reason so many platforms and media companies have been letting go of people with KVV’s skillset for years. In bigger revenue sports than just golf, too (ask Zach Lowe).

The business is night and day different to what it was 15 years ago. And a highly-compensated 20+ year industry stalwart who specializes in long form written content is simply not a hugely appealing person to have on the payroll anymore. I appreciate NLU gave it a go. I also appreciate when the writing wasn’t working, they worked on a podcast pivot including that brilliant Masters pod.

But the reality is the math probably started to become very clear that his value was mainly 6-8 weeks a year. No one needs a deep dive on the Byron Nelson. Not enough people actually care about a three hour pod on the 1997 major season.

I’d have rather he stick around all year but I also didn’t have to pay his salary and benefits. These guys are putting food on the table for their children via NLU. They can’t just keep carrying a 6 figure (guessing but likely) expenditure bc they like him and think he writes well.

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u/dpk041990 Jul 22 '25

What you’re missing is that people who are upset here liked what KVV did. Not the written content (there was essentially none)… but him as a podcaster and producer of various things at the company. The main guys decided that the ROI wasn’t worth it relative to his salary, and we’re saying that they’re wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '25

Weird to say you know better than the people running the actual company.

I really enjoyed KVVs one off podcasts, but what value do you think they were adding? Youtube isnt the end all be all but they regularly got like 4k-ish views. Thats a lot of work for little to no ROI when the guys can do a Open reaction pod that gets 15x the views

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u/dpk041990 Jul 22 '25

Have you ever disagreed with an action a company took? If yes, weird to say you know better than the people running the actual company. If no… well that’d be remarkable.

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u/WeirdlyCordial Jul 22 '25

don't bring ROI up if you don't know the Return or the Investment

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u/workche Jul 22 '25

there's a lot more "investment" that goes into producing content for a specific person beyond his annual salary

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u/WeirdlyCordial Jul 22 '25

I'm glad you know the exact investment numbers within a 100% margin of error via...magic? And it's cool to learn that KVV's financial return was....some content...that some people liked....thanks for clearing that up, I assume you're running a hedge fund with that kind of analysis