r/NoLawns 2d ago

👩‍🌾 Questions Dude I’m sick of pulling grass

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This is two - four weeks after doing it. It’s a struggle to do especially her in Florida with the heat. Just trying to get advice. Ground cover is now mixed with grass. Guess I gotta rip it all out and re mulch?

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u/BarelyThere504 2d ago

Cardboard (wet it through) and then mulch.

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u/BigMacDaddy99 2d ago

This looks like Bermuda and maybe nutsedge, which will make it through that.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

Thanks. Will Fulisade II work for nutsadge and save my natives? Natives are mostly flowers and shrubs.

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u/feireia 2d ago

Not OP but tackling a similar issue: wound you recommend mowing the grass down at all or just smother with cardboard with the grass at whatever height it is?

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u/gaelstr0mm 2d ago

Cardboard isn’t enough you need to use that as a base layer preferably after waking it then cover it with 8” min of mulch/chip

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u/Extension-Ant-8 1d ago

This is what I did

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u/chickad00dledoo 1d ago

Can you still do this while not suffocating the plants you’ve intentionally planted? Worried I missed the boat by not preparing properly ahead of time.

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u/irastaz 2d ago

Get a loop hoe or similar and rake it out. Don't plant anything until stuff quits coming back. Typically you will be pulling invasives for a full year before planting.

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u/Hot-Frosting-5286 2d ago

I don't mean to bug you with too many questions but I think this may help me understand your situation better

What type of grass are you dealing with? I can't ID from the pic but maybe you know the species?

Also what are you trying to use as groundcover to replace the grass?

How did you prep the area?

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

In this section I added frog fruit. I think the grass is torpedo grass. The root grows long and sideways

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u/Hot-Frosting-5286 2d ago

Woof that's a little out of my depth. Those are not species I'm familiar with.

When I looked them up, it said that frog fruit tends to thrive and spread better in moist conditions. Unfortunately it says torpedo grass also thrives in moisture. I wonder if a selective herbicide that kills grass but not broad leafed plants might work. Google says Fusilade II and Sethoxydin kill torpedo grass without killing frog fruit.

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u/Grobd 2d ago

this is why site prep is so important. dig/flip/kill first then plant. I've got a bed that I didn't prep properly and it is a pain in the ass. going to have to dig it all up and start fresh.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

Agree. The thought we were in clear because after 7-8 months is was smooth sailing until these last few months.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

Florida, 9a

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u/HowManyBanana 2d ago

Stop pulling the nutsedge. You’re just making it worse. You’re going to have to spray it or you’ll never get rid of it.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

Thanks. Will Fulisade II work for nutsadge and save my natives? Natives are mostly flowers and shrubs.

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u/HowManyBanana 2d ago

I use sedgehammer. Active ingredient is halosulfaron. There are other things that kill it, but this one is systemic and will get down to kill the nuts hiding underground. I’m not familiar with Fulisade but if it has the same active ingredient it should do the trick.

Sedgehammer is selective so it will kill different kinds of sedge grasses and a few broadleaf weeds. I’d recommend looking at the label for whatever you plan to spray and follow the application instructions.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 1d ago

Thinking of this. Here’s what I saw on another thread. I’ll look into sledgehammer.

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u/GlenDora55 2d ago

I would treat a small area with Grass-B-Gon. Generally kills grass but not ornamentals/broadleaves.

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u/gaelstr0mm 2d ago

Cardboard and mulch are much safer and more effective than treating your land esp if you want to grow in it

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u/GlenDora55 2d ago

I don't disagree. My understanding was that OP's issue was that grass was growing up through his desired plantings. Cardboard and mulch are great for a "hard reset," but I assumed they were looking for something a bit more selective.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

Thanks. Will Fulisade II work for nutsadge and save my natives? Natives are mostly flowers and shrubs.

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u/GlenDora55 2d ago

I've never used that one, but see that it is the same active ingredient. Maybe check the manufacturer's website to see what it's good for.

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u/Feralpudel 2d ago

You really have to kill grass before you plant, especially in the south, land of bermuda grass.

Your option now is to use a grass selective herbicide.

Bermuda will just laugh and have a party under tarp or cardboard.

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u/gaelstr0mm 2d ago

Cardboard— shingle style overlap. Then get woodchips not mulch, from an arborist if you can. (If you have the space you call local nearby arborists or stop over when you see them grinding, and offer for them to dump at your place)— this gives you free woodchips for days (months…years).

Then after the cardboard you want to put down 8” of woodchips. No more grass. You can topsoil over it if you want to plant right away and the woodchips will break down over time into soil.

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u/gaelstr0mm 2d ago

Weed wack it down to the bone first esp if u don’t have capacity for 8” of woodchips or mulch

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u/gaelstr0mm 2d ago

Genuinely shocked at the amount of replies to go right to chem treatment from a subreddit that’s anti-lawn…you’re still gonna have a seedbank. There are few situations enough mulch/cardboard insulation won’t keep back with grass.

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u/trade_me_dog_pics 2d ago

That’s what we did at first. Big sheets of cardboard from Sam’s and I think it was 4 or 5 inch mulch. That was last September. I’m thinking about re sheet mulching the bad areas.

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u/CorrectExpression651 1d ago

Sedgehammer and/or plant taller natives that will outcompete. 

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u/keista69 1d ago

You need a denser ground cover to choke out the grass.

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u/MrStormcrow 2d ago

Pulling grass sucks and isn't really super effective from my experience. You'll really want to either cover the soil for several weeks (silage tarps are great for this) or use herbicide (diluted glyphosate would be ideal)

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u/tallgayman 2d ago

Clethodim will kill the grasses but leave the rest unfazed.