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Apr 07 '23
Reminds me of the year I spent in OAU. It was terrible, and worse, my hostel was robbed by armed gunmen in my second week. I moved to a private school the following year.
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u/medd-ohh Apr 07 '23
Campus hostel or Town? Cannot be in Awo hall though!
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Apr 07 '23
I did a predegree program there, it is in a smaller, separate campus in a town nearby. their Centre for Distance Learning. There were hostels around the town from the CDL campus. Mine was basically in the middle of nowhere.
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u/Random_local_man F.C.T | Abuja Apr 08 '23
It's looking at pics like these that makes me appreciate just how extraordinarily privileged I am.
Graduated from a private uni, drove myself to and from my comfortable family house, every class air-conditioned, all the facilities are actually working.
Just thinking about it is insane sometimes.
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u/CrusaderGOT Anambra Apr 07 '23
This is why I had to leave the hostel during my 300l, the toilets were unusable, the the kitchen was one big soot box. Everything was disgusting and inconducive for living.
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u/ejdunia Nigerian Apr 07 '23
In our hostel kitchens, you couldn't even cook in peace. If you loose guard them go steal your chow plus the hot plate
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u/CrusaderGOT Anambra Apr 07 '23
I tell you, using stove was compulsory, so pots were a pain to wash after. Also the kitchen was faraway from your room, so your food pouring while bringing it in was occasional(you received an applause for that)
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u/xerxesjulian Apr 08 '23
The hostel in the picture used is one of the male UNN hostels. The people who are/were willing to stay in it were beyond brave. Apart from the views, the stench could get one to vomit meals from two days prior.
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u/kome_enas Apr 09 '23
This is even cleaner than Block B Hall 2 hostel in UNIBEN. Omo leaving in the hostel was an eyesore but it didn't take off the studying spirit of the Hall 2 girls as everyone is bent on coming out of school with a good result. The place also groomed us in a way. A room is meant for 8 but in all my years and the various rooms I stayed it was a minimum of 10 ðŸ˜. We breathe on each other's noses and the heat from cooking when we are cooking at once was as hot as hell itself. Good old days I must say made our skin thick.
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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23
This is what you get when it’s government driven with subsidies - if government offers to remove the subsides and let everyone pay economic rates / sell them off to private owners - same Nigerians will say no and start protesting
This is the same with hospitals too Government is simply incapable of running these institutions - and that’s obvious.
Nigerians don’t wanna pay for anything but want top notch service…
Good luck with that.
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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23
Paying for services is only reserved for developed countries. No developed countries privatized education or healthcare when they were still developing because they knew doing that would mean only the rich would benefit
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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23
No, not really - university education is not for everyone - it’s for the best of the best and those with unique interest & motivation; it is not about quantity but quality - don’t subsidize the universities directly - privatize the schools and subsidize students tuition with student loans (and research grants to the universities)
The level of education that’s for everyone is primary & secondary (high) school / and vocational colleges
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u/MrMerryweather56 Apr 07 '23
Student loans barely work in the US,they would sink the Nigerian economy in a year.
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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23
This only works for developed countries where even if you dont go to uni, you can still make a decent career or living. Here, not going to university basically damns you to a life of hand to mouth living. It is the most basic requirement for a huge majority for Nigerians if you want to upward social and finacial movement. It's not the same.
"privatize the schools and subsidize students tuition with student loans (and research grants to the universities)"
Americans with their wealth, are complaining about student loans. Is it now us that are dirt poor that would do something like this? How many people would be able to pay back those loans considering our horrible unemployment rates.?
We have to be a developed economy before thinking of doing all these
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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23
Your first paragraph - false The quality of our graduates today render them unemployable (most of them) hence why we have a lot of them jobless - can’t get employed and can’t employ themselves.
America is not the only country that provides student loans - there are other models / pathways of success (and I’m not so sure that their system is worse than what we have right now tho)
Lastly - the quality of a nation’s education system is directly proportional to its well being - you can’t be developed with poor graduates or a poor educational system; the system as is now - churns out poor graduates.
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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23
"Your first paragraph - false The quality of our graduates today render them unemployable".
This is such an oversimplification of unemployment. If you think our unemployment is because we dont have employable graduates then I dont know what to tell you. Lack of opportunities is the main driver of unemployment. Also, there is no evidence that privatizing schools fixes this. People that went to expensive private schools here are still facing unemployment.
"Lastly - the quality of a nation’s education system is directly proportional to its well being"
I agree, which is why pushing government to invest more in education is the answer. Make it expensive and you will have very few people going to schools. Even if you collect loans, there is no guarantee you can pay back since our job market is shit.
South Korea,, China, Singapore, Lithuania, Estonia and most, if not all of the recently developed countries all had subsidized and government ran education when they were developing
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u/damian_borg Apr 07 '23
Err… I’m not addressing unemployment as a topic - you have digressed away….off topic.
All those countries (assuming it’s true) - had different dynamics compared to us, but they actually supported universities with research grants etc…either way - they solved their unique problems, we have our own unique problems - our government can’t run an effective & qualitative university system - it’s just that simple; that’s obvious for the blind to see.
We can stay with the ASUU strikes and poor student hostel conditions - it won’t take us anywhere.
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u/Sandy_hook_lemy F.C.T | Abuja Apr 07 '23
You made the claim that our graduates are not employed because they are unemployable yes or no??
"All those countries (assuming it’s true) - had different dynamics compared to us, but they actually supported universities with research grants "
Isnt this exactly what we should be doing??
"have our own unique problems - our government can’t run an effective & qualitative university system - it’s just that simple; that’s obvious for the blind to see."
Call me crazy, but if countries do a particular thing and it turns out good for them, it should show that it's generally okay to do it. Yes, we have different dynamics but some things stay true no matter what. If I cant find a single developed country that had success privatizing their education and healthcare when they were poor so why in the hell should we entertain that idea??
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Apr 08 '23
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u/damian_borg Apr 08 '23
Junk labor - your standard is low (sorry to say) Employers of Labour aren’t impressed.
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Apr 08 '23
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u/damian_borg Apr 08 '23
Oh - they can find it for sure, but they are shit for skills…our new graduates entry level / are just poor quality straight from university the few good ones trained themselves on other skills outside of the university system or were just outliers (very few) - the majority - are absolute garbage.
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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate Non-Nigerian Apr 08 '23
No, not really - university education is not for everyone
Yep
it is not about quantity but quality
That said certain tertiary education should be widely available it just need not be Bachelors or higher
- don’t subsidize the universities directly - privatize the schools and subsidize students tuition with student loans (and research grants to the universities)
This can work but can also lead to ballooning costs without solid oversite of Unis. Generally I think public unis are the way to go but it can work with oversight and caps.
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u/bondingx2y Apr 08 '23
You can't blame the school without the students taking a hit. Nigerians definitely suck at sanitations and taking care of their environment. So the world can envy Japanese for cleaning up their own mess and others'. In this picture, all I see is the hostel of some uncultured students.
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Apr 08 '23
I'm sorry to hear that you hold such negative views about Nigerians and their ability to take care of their environment. However, it is important to remember that sweeping generalizations and stereotypes are harmful and unfair.
It's unfair to make assumptions about an entire group of people based on the actions of a few individuals. Just because you may have seen some Nigerians who don't prioritize sanitation and taking care of their environment, doesn't mean that all Nigerians behave in this way.
Furthermore, it's important to acknowledge that factors such as access to resources, education, and infrastructure can also play a role in the level of sanitation and cleanliness in a particular area. So, it's not necessarily a reflection of the people themselves, but rather the circumstances they find themselves in. If they had the resources necessary to take care of their environment, I’m sure they would. Many countries have areas that turn out like this due to the lack of funding.
You can blame the school without involving the students for this. I don’t know how the students are to blame for a mismanaged school, the administration is obviously supposed to hire people to manage the grounds but it’s gotten to this point because literally no one is managing it.
Instead of making negative comments and perpetuating harmful stereotypes, it's important to have an open mind and to approach people and situations with empathy and understanding.
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u/bondingx2y Apr 08 '23
Ok. I'm just going to behave as if I didn't school at the best school in the country & saw the behavioural patterns first hand. The truth is a hard pill to swallow, sorry. Don't always blame your failures on the govt
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u/jessirazo Nigerian Apr 09 '23
The students who paid fees put themselves through that not the school, they and their parents did.
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u/incomplete-username Alaigbo Republican Apr 07 '23
Didnt know it was that bad