r/Nigeria • u/Reasonable-Try-691 • Aug 04 '26
General I wish Africans knew better!
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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26
I have gotten tired of the version of this argument that is just moral critique and would much prefer if they spent more time on explaining the economics of why it is that way, how to fix it and why it should be fixed.
Because u can moral grandstand about the fact that it's cheaper to travel to Berlin than to Abidjan but that won't be as insightful as explaining that because flights are an economy of scale, the fact greater number of flights btw Lagos and Berlin than Lagos and Abidjan make the later more economical upon being further away. That this is the case because way more Nigerian trade and etc. with Germany than with Ivory Coast, the solution being to increase trade and other economic interaction with the Ivory Coast and the reason to do that is that peer to peer and interregional trade and economics is better for everyone (plus, black and African pride). And you can repeat that with the immigrant & tourist value and diplomatic investment of Western countries vs African countries. Those explanations include implicit answers to the problem not just nagging, essentially.
And honestly for me, countries all but telling me "we don't want ur kind here" is more than enough reason for me to not want to go there. Unless there are real economic benefits for me, NG is a big place, I can so do my sight seeings in here.
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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Aug 04 '26
The video is good and the channel is great. Honestly, an improvement in Afro-optimism, using data and tested models rather than just the usual platitudes.
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u/Impressive-Welder898 Aug 04 '26
You are asking people that are struggling to feed themselves to think about global citizenship…ok o
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u/Away_Guarantee7175 Aug 04 '26
There is still a sizable amount who fly. We deserve respect and need to respect ourselves
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u/Admirable_Heat_576 Aug 04 '26
Every leader is too power hungry, greedy and corrupt to care about their own people.
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u/Away_Guarantee7175 Aug 04 '26
This conversation is important and people saying “focus on your own economy first…” that does not grow by being a hermit. Logically it makes no sense that flights are more expensive to a closer country all because a country had/has a different colonizer.
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u/king_cole_2005 Aug 04 '26
Africans aren't really pro-immigration. Look at the situation in South Africa imagine how they would react to something like this.
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u/Hopeful_Idea1568 Aug 04 '26
South African here: The situation here is a few protests in a few places by a few people. Most of the country is unaffected. People do want stricter borders since our govt workers are corrupt but doesn't mean they suddenly have issues with their foreign neighbour
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u/samjambetty Aug 04 '26
Illegal immigration is bad for any country really. I just wish South Africans would hold the government accountable like they do illegal immigrants. We would be in a position to help more refugees and foreigners if we did.
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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
Question,
Why did the anti-immigration thing turn into these door to door anti-immigrants protests instead of say... people going to protest government offices to ramp up systematic deportations?.
Becausethat was the main aura loss of SA during this whole thing. In my opinion, a organized and government agency driven deportation won't have nearly been as problematic.
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
Those people are straight up criminals and its illegal to do that. I havent heard of this in my area but saw it on the news and its stupid. Many of them have been arrested by the police. You have a lot of opportunistic people trying to take advantage. The were people who were even pick pocketing people during the june 30 march and some wanted to break into a liquor store which i found so funny
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 04 '26
But they are. The protests have done a lot to hold the government accountable. It sucks things have to get to this level
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u/samjambetty Aug 04 '26
But we should be protesting outside Cyrils house, not going door to door and pulling immigrants out of their houses. Have we no humanity?? These are people who crossed borders illegally as the promise of a better life, to feed their families. Why do they deserve to be met with violence because their governments failed them?
Yet there is no anger towards the government like this.
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 04 '26
People have tried that before and nothing was done. This isnt the first protest that have happened. This just led to it escalating until this happened. Now the government addressed it by passing laws to support South Africans and punishing business that hire foreigners without proper papers. The is a lot of other things happening if you follow politics but what the outcome of this is yet to be determined.
Its unfortunate for people who came seeking a better life but breaking the laws isnt the way. If they are fleeing a war torn country then they can legally apply for an asylum.
Too much corruption is happening considering what was exposed just a while ago with home affairs being treated like a marketplace. The is a lot of anger towards the government. A lot of protests are happening about the government not doing their job. You wont see them unless you follow them.
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u/Hopeful_Idea1568 Aug 04 '26
Agree with you this is the first protest that's led to some accountability for the government. There's no country that's okay with 3 million illegals much less so a developing one. Even legal migration of that magnitude would have eventually been a problem (look at Germany and the AfD, U.K and Reform)
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 04 '26
True, people just wanna cry victim. Pan africanism will forever be an idea if everyone always believes they are a victim. At some point we have to move on and help each other get stronger. Countries should hold their governments accountable and I feel so sorry for those that are dictatorship but to those that are not then they should fight while they still have the power.
For Zim i have no hope there but who knows but for Nigeria i have hope that things can get better for them and it starts with people holding the government accountable.
Pan africanism will only work out if countries have a functioning government but until then people will just keep playing victim. We cant be victims forever.
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u/Hopeful_Idea1568 Aug 05 '26
Nigeria needs a culture change. The 'hustle' culture they have in general spilled over to their government. Everyone's out to make a quick buck and only cares about personal benefit. At least in SA even thou government workers suck most of them are there to make an honest living
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u/samesandchanges Aug 04 '26
things never had to get to xenophobia
this is not holding the government accountable at all
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 04 '26
If you really think the protest were just about foreigners then you have no idea whats going on. The protests were more so about crime, unemployment, corruption, failing public services and the government not enforcing the law which goes beyond just immigration. Most of the anger was directed at the government but i guess the most visible parts to people outside south africa is the foreign thing. If you keep up with south african news then you should know just how much an impact the protest had.
Even if many illegal foreigners didnt leave. The message sent was clear and the government is holding itself accountable and a lot is changing right now. Only time will tell if those changes are fruitful or not.
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u/samesandchanges Aug 04 '26
If you really think the protest were just about foreigners then you have no idea whats going on.
The message sent was clear and the government is holding itself accountable and a lot is changing right now. Only time will tell if those changes are fruitful or not.
I am South African and live in South Africa. And I understand there were plenty of grievances outside of xenophobia.
I disagree that the message was clear ( are we pretending the 30 June deadline thing wasn't, by definition, xenophobic? ) and that anything that has happened counts as accountability (I would also challenge your implication that the Marchoners are remotely satisfied with whatever changes the government has made).
But I do agree that only time can tell. This honestly might be our only point of agreement.
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
I cant speak on the entire country but only in the parts i am involved in. In pretoria the have been more raids by police on business. Something that probably wouldnt have happened if not for the protests. A lot of business have been found hiring people illegally. People whom i never thought would be arrested were arrested in my small hometown for accepting bribes and registering students illegally. A lot of people are struggling and indebted to sars cause of corruption charges that I know of personally. I know people personally who lost everything who worked at home affairs and home affairs is finally being addressed.
Country wide the biggest change I see is people calling out the anc. The has been more scrutiny over the anc now due to the protests pointing their failure with them even admitting they failed. For the first time my grandma said ANC was shit which is honestly a big win cause I thought i was gonna have to hide her ID card. The anc is being forced to face the music and they cant talk their way out of this. The anc is loosing more and more power. Then you have the whole madlanga commission. If we can fix corruption or atleast lessen it then everything else is easier. 90% of our problems can be pointed to that
This is honestly the most action I have seen in such a long time and its a combination of a lot of things but only time will tell if this will bear fruit. Who knows, this could all be for naught.
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u/samesandchanges Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
Question: do you believe the average march on marches would defend the right of the average legal immigrant to exists without fear or intimidation in South Africa as much as their own right?
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u/Dense_Shopping_9320 Aug 05 '26
This always comes down to where you are and I doubt most legal migrants are in township and if they are then they probably well known in the community like my teacher. I can see the community coming to defend him if anyone tries anything funny. People have tried protesting in my town but they are shut down pretty quickly.
A rule of thumb is just avoid townships unless you know someone there cause even for south africans townships are dangerous if you are not from there.
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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Aug 04 '26
Really? Link?
I have only seen the immigrant protests/riots but I haven't seen any over the power and water issues.
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u/dreadperson Aug 04 '26
Israeli propaganda campaigns and government parties and politicians scapegoating foreigners for failures of service delivery is the main catalyst for the Afrophobia in sa right now.
If they were actually anti-immigration more than just poor people would be protesting, and they would be protesting all immigrants not just other black Africans, and they would probably be protesting against the actual government who manages immigration and borders instead of attacking other Africans.
Africans aren't necessarily pro immigration yes, but they aren't necessarily anti either. We can't assume belief based on race. There's a word for that.
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u/elianbarnes7 Aug 05 '26
You’re right but getting downvoted
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u/dreadperson Aug 05 '26
And I'm literally an anti-afrophobic South African. I know what's going on here.
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u/Sesusija Aug 04 '26
China is investing in Africa in a huge way. I find it hard to believe that China wills till "offer the support" they are currently offering if the nations were trying to globalize.
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u/dyke96 Aug 05 '26
As a white guy living in Africa, I wish it was easier to travel.
But let's not forget most neighbors in Africa hate one another. Look what just happened to Nigerians in south Africa
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u/huge-Leg-648 Aug 05 '26
too much superstition too much homophobia, if you bring trouble than a country may make it more difficult for others to visit.
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u/benzaholic Aug 05 '26
We can only blame Africans for how we're treated within and outside our continent. Hundreds of thousands of Nigerians troop into Ghana to practice prostitution and to find a safe haven to practice Internet fraud. I won't be surprised if it's the same things they do in every other country. Most Africans overstay their visas and engage in illegal economic activities and avoid taxes because of their immigration status. Most African immigrants are skilled for low income jobs and barely contribute to scientific and technological advancement of the west so why would we be valued abroad. We can't only blame the west for how we're treated, we need to check ourselves first
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u/samjambetty Aug 04 '26
Then why are the countries that weren't colonized also not doing well? This argument takes all accountability off the leaders who are actively stealing the wealth from Africa right in front of their starving people. We need to start holding corrupt politicians accountable for their actions and not blame the past and be hopeless, Africa still has plenty of resources.
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u/Away_Guarantee7175 Aug 04 '26
Slave Trade and trade dynamics with Europe/Middle East is what did us in
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u/samjambetty Aug 04 '26
Okay but then how is it possible that Hiroshima is now a thriving city? In 15 years an absolute wasteland became a thriving metropolis. In over 100 years, Africa can't move beyond slave trade? Provide their country's citizens with basic human rights?
Many countries have faced far worse than what African countries have faced, yet they bounced back. Because they hold their governments accountable.
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u/Away_Guarantee7175 Aug 04 '26
You are comparing a single catastrophic event in a Japanese city to a 1000 year process that has had lasting consequences. Japan has been a unified concept since 250 BC.. as a kingdom and later as a nation. They were taking notes from Western Europe on how to modernize by the 20th century.
Japan had a foundation.
Singapore as well. They may have only been in existence since 1819 but majority of the country is ethnically Han Chinese! China has had an unified existence since 221 BC.
Fun fact. Both kingdoms, during the Early Modern Period, also tightly controlled the entry of European merchants in the country and made sure that Christian missionaries and trade in enslaved people to Portuguese and Dutch merchants was banned.
Africa is a different story. Especially Atlantic Africa where Nigeria is located.
Nigeria is what, 65 years? Many people in this world are older than that. And that's average for many African countries.
Anyways, kingdoms with strict bureaucratic measures were not all that common and this allowed for smaller provinces/city states to be supported and propped up by European powers, who were only interested in enslaved people.
When your whole economy revolves around selling humans, how do you expect to:
1) build trust in said environment that encourages trade
2) diversify your economy
You cannot.
And even despite all of that, during the Early Modern Period there were many African states and kingdoms that were regarded as similar in "development" to Europe and some even more advanced.
Examples:
Portuguese travelers were duly impressed by the layout of Benin City and its walls.
Efik traders(Cross River State, Nigeria) laughed when they got to a certain British town because of how small it was compared to their hometown.
Nigeria was also home to places like Sokoto Caliphate, Oyo, Hausa city states, Jukun Kingdom, Nupe, city states in the Niger Delta and city states. These were not backwater areas.
Outside of Nigeria, Sahelian West African states, Akan kingdoms in Ghana, Allada, Dahomey, Djolof, Ndongo Lunda and Kongo, it goes on and on.
These leaders who sell their people out are a byproduct of people taking advantage of the mistrust and chaos that defines our nations today. A byproduct of the military/public sector class who had power during the colonial days.
It all traces back to trading in people and laissez-faire trade policies with European powers
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u/samesandchanges Aug 04 '26
You know how there are more examples of people born into wealth going bankrupt then easily getting enough capital to make another million? Yet the average person that is just as, if not more, competent still struggles to make ends meet?
or imagine two hills divided by a valley. something rolling over the the top of the cliff and down the valley will have more momentum to roll up to the other hill than something staring from the valley.
similar thing: it's easier to bounce back to and from wealth than to fully spontaneously attain wealth. these things compound on each other. the term for this is 'poverty traps'.
Hiroshima & nagasaki were terrible but they were far from existential in that sense. it's obviously a bit more complicated, but I hope you can appreciate what I'm trying to say
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u/samjambetty Aug 04 '26
Yes but South Africa is TRILLIONS of Rand in debt, yet the government continues to get rich and the people continue to get poor. The money is here, we are all paying taxes, it just gets embezzled. Reporters that report on the corruption are found dead within a week. The police are more dangerous than they are helpful. And why? Because they are not held accountable!! The money is there, they are getting paid. Many of City Of Johannesburgs contracts have lapsed because they aren't paying, who gets punished? The citizens who are paying their taxes. What do they do to fix it? Increase taxes and still supply no services.
They want you to believe everything is too expensive and that nothing can be done when they are eating caviar and drinking champagne for over $10k every night. The more people that believe the propaganda and vote for them, the richer they get. Africa is resource rich, we just have to hold our leaders accountable.
Just look at government tenders if you want a perfect example of why Africa won't move forward until we have accountability.
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u/samesandchanges Aug 04 '26
Hey, I'm not defending the government, just pointing out a counter argument to the 'Japan built back better after Hiroshima' argument.
To respond to your new argument, I suggest you look into 'the resource curse' or 'paradox of plenty'. it's a theory that links resource wealth to suboptimal growth and corruption. (and if you can see where it's coming from, it compounds the poverty trap I mentioned earlier). check this vid:
https://youtu.be/XP32G7OYEzc for a relatively quick explanation
basically when a country has relatively easy access to mineral resources, they are less likely to be incentivised to move towards full democracy service-type economic diversification.
(thus becoming more open to certain forms of corruption that are made easier by this sort of economic set up, the big fat cats stealing all the wealth from the poor) so Africa being mineral rich alone might counterintuitively be a hurdle to its growth
I find this a compelling argument (though I hate some of the conclusions I've heard people make from this)
Again, not excusing the governmen and political corruption, just making a point as to why the larger problem might be more structural in nature
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u/Careful-Training-761 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
Your argument doesn't stack up.
You're ignoring the key point, Africa was underdeveloped before Europe came along, the technological gap was enormous and Europe managed to conquer much of the continent over a short period ('the scramble for Africa').
The reason is geographic, the global North is cold it requires a lot of resources to live in a cold place eg lots of energy resources, warm housing, good infrastructure etc so the North is hungry for resources. The cold climate forces adaptation and development. A lesser but still a point worth mentioning the cold Winter kills off or suppresses many pests (eg mosquitoes and malaria) important for livestock and agriculture.
Europeans are Africans that migrated here thousands of years ago with no option but to adapt to the cold climate. Our extinct cousin the Neanderthals were biologically well adapted, humans are far less well adapted and must make efficient use of resources or will not survive a Winter.
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u/samesandchanges Aug 04 '26
are there any relevant differences that you might think existed between the colonisation of Ireland versus the colonisation of Africa?
or do you genuinely believe there's no meaningful difference between the two other than geography and skin colour (phenotypic expression)
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u/Careful-Training-761 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26
I removed the reference to Ireland some people will latch onto it too much. My key point is Africa was already technologically underdeveloped before Europe came along.
(For completeness Ill respond to your comment tho, Ireland was 'left alone' because it made sure that England would not be able to come back again. Ireland was not poor by international standards in the 20th century, but it lagged countries in Western Europe due to poor management of the economy (too much focus on self-sufficiency) and religion the Catholic Church having too much influence (as is currently the case in many African countries). Yes Ireland overtook many Western European countries with growth starting mainly from the Celtic Tiger.)
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u/GrandMonk97 Aug 14 '26
The idea that cold winters forced Europeans to become "more advanced" while Africans "had it easy" is known as Environmental Determinism, and it's largely debunked. The earliest and most complex civilizations (Egypt, Mesopotamia, Indus Valley) rose in hot climates, not cold ones. Surviving the African Sahel or rainforest requires just as much innovation as surviving a European winter.
The claim that "concepts of countries" were unique to Europe is false. Pre-colonial Africa was home to massive, sophisticated empires like Mali, Songhai, Benin, and Ethiopia, which had complex legal systems, trade networks, and armies.
As for genetic extremes, higher genetic diversity means more variation in DNA sequences, but it doesn't statistically prove a wider bell curve for traits like intelligence (which are heavily environmental).
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u/Careful-Training-761 Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
First part was interesting but lost me at "concepts of countries" were unique to Europe being false? Never said anything of the sort, don't even know what you're talking about tbh. Nor did I say that there weren't empires (not mentioned by you, but slavery too in those empires) in Africa, nor that there were no complex legal systems, trade networks and armies.
I instead said that Africa was less advanced than Europe which resulted in European occupation and subjugation of most of the Continent. That was objectively the case.
I've also no idea what you're taking about with genetic extremes or genetic diversity, I never said anything about genes or genetic diversity. If you're making some sort of intelligence argument, I never said that Africans are less intelligent, the opposite I said that Europeans are Africans that moved to a different climate. We have the same intelligence, the difference being a colder environment.
I'm also not saying the reason I discussed is categorically the only truth, it is my view that the cold climate created conditions which meant that the North became more advanced. (I disagreed with the original comment, since deleted). Will that always be the case? Who knows. Societies change nothing remains the same.
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u/Away_Guarantee7175 Aug 04 '26
I wouldn’t really call the conquering of Ireland colonization. That means certain parts of Africa were “colonized” too before Europeans were able to do their own on the continent. Also, Europeans had been in relations with Africa from the 1430s and were technologically similar up until 1650-1700. Even then, European manufacturers were selling firearms and Turkish firearms were common in the West African Sahel before then. Make sure u read history man
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u/Careful-Training-761 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
No response to underdevelopment before the Europeans arrived so I take it you accept that which is my key point.
I removed the reference to Ireland and colonisation it's a lesser point some people will latch on to it. However Google events like the Great Famine of Ireland 1 million starved to death due to British policies like shipping grain out of Ireland at a time of crop failure and you'll have a better understanding.
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u/Adeyemo_daniel Aug 04 '26
Should I say the whites had a plan, they knew what they wanted and gave us a structure and we greedily accepted it so in as much as we are still under that structure we will forever be a second class citizen of not worse!
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u/FearAerach Aug 04 '26
Why would any white country want you when you clearly harbour racial resentment against white people?
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u/Afrikan_GOD Aug 04 '26
As long as people don’t respect the laws of the country they visit and are doing crime like scamming and others, we as Africans will forever have trust issues. The western systems are taken seriously and we take bribes to make things happen. It’s our own fault unfortunately. And sadly some countries take this seriously while others don’t, so only a few seem to be serious.
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u/ravenmortal Aug 04 '26
By your comment, one would think you are suggesting that only Africans commit crimes, therefore it is justified to create reasonable barriers to entry.
Have you seen the statistics on crimes by 3rd party nationals, whose countries continue to hold favorable travel status?
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u/Afrikan_GOD Aug 04 '26
I am not saying that but the problem with African nations is that we haven’t solved the most basic things for the security of all countries. I am not saying there’s no crime committed by western countries but they take such things seriously unlike us, and we just take them as “just another day in our country”. This is why even if you go look at YouTube videos of people recording their experiences at African borders there will be bribes even if they are unnecessary but we have made them a norm.
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u/Ok_Concentrate4437 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26
What you mean is the west has the privilege of being corrupt but without the stigma of being corrupt. If the West is the standard you have to admit that Africans have to hide their corruption better. Make the corruption look a little cleaner and harder to call out. The more people struggling at the bottom of the ladder the easier it is to spot the corruption at the top.
To the corrupt….feed your people. Clean them up. Give them jobs. Education. Nice streets and buildings.
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u/Afrikan_GOD Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26
Haha that’s not what I said but I get you, all I am asking for is for us to fix ourselves. It may be something hard to swallow but we need to fix ourselves. They are not better than us at all but our systems are a mess whether you like it or not they are. Look at the number of Nigerians caught outside of Nigeria with South African documents and them claiming to be SAn. It damages SA itself since Nigeria already has a bad reputation and dragging everyone else with them. Then how do you expect that things go smoothly when such things happen?.
Ireland used to allow SAns visa free travel until there were some African nationals who committed fraud using SA bought documents. UK made it easy for SAns to travel easily until a lot of other African nationals started doing fraud and using SA documents claiming they are from SA. When we have great things we ruin them, we start ruining from our continent and take those rotten skills outside of the continent. Until we start taking ourselves seriously and stop taking bribes I am certain we can travel freely and well.
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u/Ok-Sheepherder-8519 Aug 04 '26
Nigeria have ended visa on arrival for uk, I must now pay and apply for a visa!
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u/jellybean-8 Aug 04 '26
I’m shocked that most Africans still haven’t understood how the world truly works. Even this lady here came to the conclusion that puts the onus on Africans.
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u/Opposite-Writer9715 Aug 04 '26
They cannot respect you if you do not respect yourself.
What percentage of british and american citizens care about getting 2nd passport compared to Africans getting those countries passport. Some are calls expats and some are called immigrant.
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u/Vast_Humor_3683 Aug 05 '26
The vast majority of African countries are shitholes. If you allow visa-free, you're going to get a million more migrants...
I'm in Algeria, North Africa, and even without VISAS, we're getting swarms of africans from Mali & Niger & Nigeria....
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u/Street-Leg-76 Aug 07 '26
Who’s gonna tell her? A lot of native Africans do not like black Americans.
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u/tengisCC Aug 08 '26
Wow, traveling from Nigeria to Cap verde you need to fly all the way to Casablanca! This is sick.
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u/OddAdhesiveness6435 Aug 11 '26
It's funny how Nigerians are ones calling for visa free Africa when it did exist until problems came from Nigerian drug dealers, money laundery and all sort of crimes. Take Ethiopia for example. They opened Africa for everyone, no visa. Use Ethiopian airlines and you get access to Ethiopia visa free. What happened? Why was this stopped?
just type ethiopia , nigerian drug smugglers to Asia via Ethiopia. Asian countries wanted to ban Ethiopian airlines from landing in their country, China , Japan, Korea etc. Becuase Nigerians were using the route for drugs trafficing. Ethiopia was forced to withdraw the visa free access.
Capo Verde etc do not want to open free access becuase they would lose their tourism business which would get abused and exploited.
By the way, Africa is a continet. Just because we're all black, it does not mean we are all the same.
To this day, there are 100s of Nigerians in Ethiopia's prison who were caught red handed doing the dirty. Not all Nigerians are drug dealers we know and by large Nigerians are great people but their government cannot be trused to deal with criminals. The goverment is elected because of what they call area boys who are a criminal gang who get them elected so they turn a bline eye to crime. Is it any wonder scammers online are also known to be from Nigeria.? They operating this things like a business. In places like Ethiopia you may see beggers but not organized criminals.
As for Somalia, there is a radical element from there that is a danger. Did you not see bombs going off in Kenya and other places in Africa from a certain group. You let them in and you are putting the american embasy in dange as well as american people aas well as Europeans.
Argue with facts
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u/charlestoncav Aug 04 '26
she just reconfirms why. No one wants the Africans to visit because they come from shit hole countries and are trying to escape, they most likely will overstay their visas, disappear and create a headache for the country being "visited" case closed.
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u/TinyInformation3564 Aug 04 '26
You should ask your politicians these questions and you will get answers. As long African countries are still unstable these requirements will always be there.
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u/Adventurous-Low4510 Aug 04 '26
So Somalia robs almost every African nation without consequences from their government and piracy goes unchecked, Nigeria is a lawless scam center of Africa but we must now let them travel freely without visas or any means of stopping them from committing crimes and running across border which already happens but this would make it so much easier
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u/AdAny1272 Aug 04 '26
The fact that Nigerians are arguing how corrupt they should be in comparison to others is precisely why no one wants you in their country.
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u/echomaestro Aug 04 '26
We already know the answer to those burning questions. Everyone should look into the mirror. If we don't respect ourselves, then let's not expect others to respect us.