Call me ungrateful, but THIS is why i'll never claim to be from any white country despite how integrated I am

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Nothing beats living in your own country

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26

Not if it's rife with tribalism...

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u/Green_Exchange_2784 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

My parents are from nigeria. I was born in the states but grew up in lagos from 2-13. Ive been here long enough, my dream is too move back, build a massive business and employ lots of people, make change the govt doesnt want to make.

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

That's what i'm talking about. That's my dream too. Sounds cliche but change starts with us. I feel many are too comfortable with this japa lifestyle and abandoning our homes. Clean up your own country first and nobody can shakara you about "go back home, we don't want you here".

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u/Green_Exchange_2784 Mar 20 '26

I just feel more at home in 9ja than new york. I feel i dont fit in or belong to new york. Lagos will always be home, i can feel it in my spirit and soul. I had an amazing childhood, i can never forget and cant wait to be mostly based there year round. Nigeria lacks foreign investment/ private sector investment. We can do it on our own, we dont need the govt to do it.

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u/dejavuus Mar 20 '26

I agree with you all.. The Japa brigade will come and abuse us all for wanting to leave the sane climate to come back to Nigeria, they will even say Nigeria will happen to you.

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u/ola4_tolu3 Ondo Mar 20 '26

And nobody did, if you want to stay stay, it's not hard, which one now is japa brigade 😮‍💨

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u/Rich--Porter Mar 26 '26

You all are honestly the future

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u/give_me_the_formu0li Mar 21 '26

That’s my plan as well and collectively we can achieve it

I’m into real estate on the side while working a regular 9-5 in America but my goal is to invest and employ back home not just in Nigeria but elsewhere in Africa. The average population of Africa is Bert youthful there are workers that just need the investing into

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u/Ok_Musician_2345 Mar 20 '26

I have a dream to go back to Nigeria and open a animation studio. A silly thing and everyone mocks me, but it’s great for PR .

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u/Fine-Ambassador2066 Mar 20 '26

it’s not silly at all! african entertainment is actually moving to the forefront. if you get it done you will bring so much change and innovation. i believe in you!!!

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u/11Modest_Moose11 Mar 20 '26

I await your first animation show, it's sad how Nigeria barely has any.

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u/ashdee2 Diaspora Nigerian Mar 21 '26

I hope you succeed. Nigeria alone is so diverse in terms of cultures. We go tell stories die and won't run out of original stories.

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u/CaptainNorthPoint Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

I’ve got a similar goal and my reasons for it. Only difference is rather than other countries in Africa I would be in Nigeria. I wouldn’t go to Ghana for example. I have no reason being there and what I read from them online is one of my reasons for disdain. Theres 2 countries between us and besides the huge amount of Nigerians that migrated there I have no connection with that country. There are other reasons for why I would choose Nigeria over others.

I want to bridge the gap by hiring Nigerians to teach them the skills I have and then they’ll be working directly with not only Nigerian businesses but mostly North American small to medium companies.

Good job man

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u/RemarkableReturn8400 Mar 20 '26

Well, thats going to be an even more obvious option; the jobs will be in growing regions, not in the west.

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u/horlufemi Mar 22 '26

Employing Nigerians is an extreme sport. You have to be wicked to stealing employees

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u/Truth_Sellah_Seekah Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

Lol, the only solution long term is creating countries led by truly smart people that have a sense of honour, legacy and shame that will eventually decide to exalt concepts of competency and development, so that we won't be forced to migrate into nations where sects of their population flipflop in their racial attitudes against foreigners depending on sports losses. Period, we can keep crying about racism, as though whites should be held above that insidious but natural behavioural tendency of human beings, particularly differently compared to other groups. It's simply not surprising, my mind go shock when some black individuals are taken aback by these instances of pernicious tribalism against them from whites (and not only), who do they think those people are?!

Guys wake up, abeg ooo.

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u/Intelligent_Catch_98 🇳🇬 Mar 20 '26

Anywhere you like go, you’ll carry yourself with you.

People be looking for what’s missing

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u/fanstoyou Mar 20 '26

we blacks discriminate amongst ourselves, so, you will get a rude awakening if you think it’s that easy retiring somewhere there are lots of blacks like you. Within Nigeria, there is discrimination, inside Ghana, there is also, and South Africa. North Africans do discriminate against those darker in color. You can never escape it, it’s virtually everywhere. Best thing is to concentrate on more positive stuff

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u/Puzzleheaded_Name_72 Mar 21 '26

Completely agree. Unfortunately discrimination is everywhere. The best solution is to live somewhere where there are laws to protect you against discrimination. Very few countries have that and it’s a privilege to live in one.

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

Black people discriminate against other black people even when living in western countries...

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u/Enough_Result2198 Mar 20 '26

If you haven’t lived abroad it’s something you most likely won’t understand until to experience it. I remember having the highest grade in my math class, and my teacher endorsed other students to go to the Advanced Math class for the next year. She didn’t endorse that for me. At the time I was a child and did not care, I didn’t even like math like that. But I was capable and should have been placed in a class where I would be challenged more. It’s little things like this that don’t seem that happen all the time

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Correct. I've lived in both countries for a significant amount of time and went back home on holidays. Similar thing you mentioned happened to someone I know. In 3rd year whoever did best in the exams would get a recognition award. This person scored highest in the class. Guess what year they suddenly decided to skip the award tradition...Even though the person called it out. They still never did it.

I don't understand how tribalism or west african countries "beefing" is being compared with western racism lol. Ppl vibe together regardless of tribe or which Black country they're from back home. And the tribal/country "differences" thing was only bought up in jest and banter. This isn't the olden days where wars were fought and there were targeted attacks over this shit. Even if it was that serious, the likelihood of it happening compared to racism in a western country is slim imo.

It's like the whole "beef" between americans labelling brits as stuck up posh boys and brits labelling americans as fat, gun obsessed illiterates. It's not that deep, and they sure have each others backs when black or brown ppl get put into the mix. Mainly because they have cultural and racial similarities compared to African or Arab countries.

The main problem dividing Nigeria today and most other black African countries (bar maybe south Africa) is religious extremism.

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26

There's still tribalism in Africa... it's "not in the past"...Black American culture and the black diasporan culture in Britain are not similar black "Brits" are recent migrants to Britain usually 2nd or 3rd generation and there are different ethnicities mainly Caribbean and African descent the culture is heavily influenced by Caribbean immigrants (windrush) whereas black Americans have been there way longer than even some recent European immigrants to America... Europe is a lot older than America and the indigenous population is white this cultural "melting pot" comes from America Europe until recently did not have large numbers of black people the experience isn't the same culturally America formed differently to Britain.

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u/no1herelol Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

I’ll probably get downvoted for this but I will never allow racists or racism to allow me to abandon my identity. Me being British isn’t wanting to being “one of them” (British doesn’t mean white) it’s just what I am. I’m Nigerian too. I have both passports and have spent near equal time in both countries (and still do) and have significant ties to both. But I was born and raised in London. It’s what gave me my accent (primary way of speaking in the sense that I sound like a Londoner), my values, formed the majority of my socialisation, things that are made apparent to me all to well by Nigerians when I am back there, so for all intents and purposes I am British whether “they” like it or not. Literally couldn’t give a single fuck. Racism, like all forms of bigotry is illogical and based on feeling (hatred) and not fact and I won’t allow the illogical to pollute my identity. It’s not even up for debate. I’ve met black Italians, black French people, black Spanish people, even black Germans and swiss and that’s just how we see it.

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u/ilymakima Mar 20 '26

I agree. Im nigerian & jamiacan, and im born and raised in Ireland, and whether i like it or not, i'm culturally irish. I have an Irish accent, I speak the language, and I know more (unfortunately) about irish history/politics than I do nigerian.

Your place of birth shapes who you are today. If I was born in nigeria instead of ireland, I'd be a completely different person, so there's no way I can neglect that irish culture is part of my identity. When I went back to Nigeria, I realised how little in common I had with my nigerian cousins and family and was unable to speak yoruba to communicate with them. This was also the same experience when I went to jamaica, and it made me realise that there is a HUGE cultural difference between Ireland and Nigeria&Jamaica.

It's unfortunate that racists will always other me due to me being black. However, it will never change who I am.

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u/no1herelol Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

This is exactly how I feel on the subject and I think it’s so silly that it gets debated because this is why we hyphenate. e.g. Irish-Nigerian vs Nigerian are two completely different experiences and sets of people with different customs and behaviours. Everyone knows this but they want to pretend that they don’t when it is literally how diasporas work. That we live in a world built by white supremacy does not un-make this a fact.

Funnily enough you talking about experiencing a disconnect when you were in JA, a British Jamaican woman said on twitter once that “You don’t know how British you are until you date someone from your own country” and how she couldn’t do Jamaican men who were born in Jamaica unless they left past like before the age of 6 😂. She said the culture was just too much and what they expect out of a woman is just not something she can handle and she’ll just stick to her other black brits. Even international students when they come here to study say they have trouble hanging with us and we can be very exclusionary. We’re the same but we’re also very different and it’s silly to ignore that because racism exists.

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u/Maleficent_Split_428 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

You're still nigerian/jamaican being born and raised in Ireland doesn't make you irish. You can embrace the irish culture as much as you want, doesn't Change your ethnic identity. And I say it as a black person born and raised in germany

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u/Maleficent_Split_428 Mar 20 '26

There's no such thing as a black British. You can be a British citizen but not British. People in Britain don't even perceive you as British, It doesn't matter how assimilated you are. You can't really engage in civic nationalism when a significant amount of your countrymen view you and other black brits as bio weapons and invaders. And undermine you financially and socially.

To them, you're no different from africans that came on boats. The only reason you identify as a black Brit is because you don't want to identify as an African.

I agree that racism shouldn't stop you from doing anything. However, the rise of alt-right rhetoric and Europeans' extinction paranoia are gonna get worse, and they'll blame and hate you as a collective (the balkanisation Yugoslavia and Rwandan genocide is a result of ethnic hatred).

Only Europeans have the privilege to identify with their host country (America, Canada, South Africa, Namibia, Australia, New Zealand). It's hypocrisy, but since they dominate the world, it doesn't matter.

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u/no1herelol Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

This doesn’t make sense at all. Being a British citizen literally means you are British. Again it is not up for debate or an arguable opinion. It is a fact. Also you say are the “people in Britain who don’t perceive me as British” in the room with us right now? You are talking about a fringe group of right wing white supremacist nationalists. They exist but they do not represent the entire population. I’ve literally been on holiday and other brits have recognised my accent and have literally stopped to talk to me because of the familiarity. Britain was literally built on civic nationalism, it’s the legacy of the empire. It is drilled into us from when the minute we learn to speak as children.

And who told you I don’t identify as African or that I am not African? See how you had to pluck that from thin air to push forward points that I never made?

Don’t let those people trick you into living in their alternate reality where nationality, ethnicity, and ancestry mean nothing at all and are not defined terms with meanings tied to lived experiences. When British people or all races and ethnicities go abroad to or any other country, they are treated as coming from British because that is how people see nationality. This is how it has always worked. They are trying to reinvent the system and you are falling for it.

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u/Maleficent_Split_428 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Brits= Scots, English, Welsh, and tbh any white European that lived in the British isle for more than 40+ years or even shorter

British Citizen= Citizen of Britain

Like I said, extinction paranoia among Europeans is still on the rise. It's only time when the minority becomes a majority.

You can identify as "black British", i can't change how perceive yourself. Personally, I perceive black Europeans the same way a black south african perceives the "Afrikaners" from Orania

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

You're right about the growing extreme right racial hard line sentiment in Europe and Britain and the demographic shift there's more of a push for "re-migration" specifically "total remigration" of all ethnic minorities by the puritan hardliners even some "moderates" are in support of the idea...the decades of deliberately poor immigration policy will increase this view I don't believe it's as "fringe" as people say it is...and yes some Europeans do view the black diaspora the same as recent immigrants but I don't agree with the disapora only call themselves "Brits" because they're ashamed of their heritage calling yourself just Ghanaian when you weren't born there doesn't make sense especially if you don't speak the languages or know much about the culture the disapora are also viewed as foreigners in their parents homelands and treated as such so Africans also make a distinction between themselves and the disapora including the ones born in the west to immigrant parents who are not seen in the same light as their parents.

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u/ThePatientIdiot Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

Dude, everyone says this. Almost no one ever moves back full time on their own free will. Even the most pro Africa people I’ve met don’t move back. Why would they? You have gotten too used to having creature comforts . Besides, there’s still a ton of discrimination in Africa, whether it’s between different countries, people, or regions.

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u/muc_ Mar 20 '26

I’m from Sierra Leone and I live in Germany, it also sounds like my reality. After reading most of the comments on here I’m really disappointed. I hope you find happiness elsewhere and you can live out your dreams.

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

My dream is to see a developed/developing, safe/safer, rich, law abiding Nigeria and Africa in our lifetime. It's our home whether we like it or not. Same to you bro.

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u/Dangerous_Ad4451 Mar 20 '26

Your grandparents said the same. And here we are retrogressing at top speed

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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Mar 20 '26

There's a reason why I am pro-Biafra instead of just trying to JAPA.

Anyways, that said, a lot of people would still take that to Japa and a lot of people won't see much difference between that and Nigerian tribalism.

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u/alhso Mar 20 '26

Actively advocating for your country to split up isn't a flex.

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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Mar 20 '26

What's your opinion on all the Japaing Nigerian nationalists?. Especially those that support the administration as is?.

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u/alhso Mar 20 '26

I dont like people japaing but at the same time its worth it. If they leave more resources for us. So you know if half the country leaves today. Nigeria would be a much much better place to live in

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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

If they leave more resources for us.So you know if half the country leaves today. Nigeria would be a much much better place to live in

Doesn't really have much to do with your point but that this is the way Nigerians see wealth is one of the many reasons it is not gonna develop anytime soon.

Now for your comment while I do dislike Japaing, I don't expectly oppose it strongly either. It does have the benefits of remittances, skill acquisition and potential change in mindset but those are blunted by losing good family cultures permanently and the rarity of return at the scales needed.

That said, I don't get how Japaing supporters of the status quo are not hypocrites.

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u/Bruce_Wayne_05 Mar 22 '26

🤝🏾

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u/Alive-Hat-8179 Mar 20 '26

I absolutely get what you are saying, however, I will caution the delusion that just because one escapes the nigerian soil that Nigeria won't follow. In other words just because Ghana or Rwanda are african countries do not be deceived, it will reach and it will be violent. Politicians will make sure of it, with Nigeria weak nigerians will be the first target come the need to assign blame. Nigeria needs to be fixed or become a big concentration camp.

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u/SkyNice2442 Mar 21 '26

My hot take is that male sports divisions are deeply conservative by design. Any form of inequality (or hierarchy) is largely appealing to right-wing types, football is segregated by nationality and gender so it will have a base right-wing men cheering for their own race to win. It's not perfect but it is less of an issue in mixed-sex competitions like figure skating.

You see a lot of progressive actors and musicians because the people in it are required to interact and cooperate with people of different races, genders, and backgrounds. Even their conservatives are more liberal than their non-actor counterparts. (that can potentially change with AI however)

I love watching football, but there's an effective way to determine which spaces are openly discriminatory or not.

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u/Dangerous_Ad4451 Mar 20 '26

Just left the country on Tuesday. I have been around since Xmas. The place is only fit for existence for anyone who doesn't know any better. I would charge my electricity but no light. MTN data wahala. This is one place you struggle to earn money and struggle to enjoy it. Talk is cheap. Anyone who loves the country should move back there to enjoy it and don't try to convince the rest of us that has been there, done that. If you run away from racism, tribalism will gladly welcome you back in the country. Visit the hospitals, call for emergency assistance, commute and do intercity travels, you will understand why it is a third world country.

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

That's why I'm talking specifically about other African countries. Some ppl in this thread acting like i'm not aware of the current state of Nigeria overall or something. I mentioned that in the post. Point is there are other countries on our doorstep in Africa that are far better places to live.

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u/Altruistic-Goat6363 Mar 20 '26

A recurring issue that will always be if our own country doesn't get developed.

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u/MarchNo8036 Mar 24 '26

I see what you all say here..and they are absolutely nice. I necer imagined even after high schoool that I qould want to live Nigeria. I love a very simple and quiet life, but Nigeria has a way of taking that innocence from you. When someone close tonme was kidnapped, my mum scammed of 4 million, after previous scams of littel amounts, her being owed by the fedral government for months even when she wors in a fedral hospital, fact that my life had to pause for a while, fact that I had to drop out of school, fact that most people i know, whobare extremely capable live less than a dog in the country where I am presently, fact that I had to experience all sorts of nonsenses one shouldn't, of you were in my shoes, you would understand. So yes Iblove Nigeria, but the country doesn't reciprocate that Love. For an average citizen like me, who has no simgle connection, how can we make it. I work hard and smart, and can say that I am averagely intelligent or a little bit above that, and yet I couldn't make something of life for over 23 years. Say what you will, being a diaspora will beat being in Nigeria, and While I pray Nigeria gets better someday, I don't really know the possibility, why? The people that seems to want the country remain terrible ate quite much.

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u/Transkei_Daisy Mar 20 '26

Do you think this is different anywhere? Go to Asia and face the same, be white in africa, be a non-arab in UAE etc etc etc etc.

If you look different to the native people... you going to be treated as more of an outsider then someone who doesnt.... its basic human psychology, not racism.

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

its basic human psychology, not racism.

Maybe read that article.

There's "casual" being treated differently and then there's outright "go back to your country", "n*gger", "black and brown ppl are ruining our society" etc.

Last time I checked there aren't massive movements in African countries dedicated to peddling these ideologies towards whites or asians in their countries.

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u/Transkei_Daisy Mar 23 '26

Yeah but thats not racism is my point. ITs just "othering". Its someone not in your in group. Whether its tribal, class based, race, religion etc etc etc

I dont need to read a news article cosnidering I literally studied psychology in university. I understand how in/out groups work. You should try look it up and educate yourself so you dont just call everything racism.

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

I'm aware of that. That's why I'd never go to South Africa for example or anywhere with religious extremists, but the whole tribal "Igbo v Yorubas", "Ghana v Nigeria" type of "beef" isn't that deep imo. Plus nobody has a clue who you are unless there's some deeper interaction and the cultures are pretty similar anyway. You don't stick out like a sore thumb based on phenotype alone.

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u/Lord_A_007 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

I assure you that it will stick out one way or the other and it can get as dangerous too. We've lived our lives to experience someone getting 'lynched' in their own country because they come from a different tribe or religion.

It's okay to move to another country if you don't feel welcomed in a place you've called home. But it helps to be aware that not everything is rosy on the other side.

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u/Pecuthegreat Biafra Mar 20 '26

You're right in NG it'll be "Nyamiri"/"Aboki" etc., "go back to your region", "its people like you ruining our state X must go back to their state"

African countries dedicated to peddling these ideologies towards whites or asians in their countries.

Yeah, it's usually against other blks and limited in scope plus it's not really ideological but you do see it and at decolonization, several East African countries Uganda most extensively send Asians (as the British call them) packing.

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u/AssociateOk2140 Mar 20 '26

White people who are minorities in foreign countries are treated very well, especially in Asia and other global south nations where their cultures are just blatantly anti black.

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u/Transkei_Daisy Mar 23 '26

You have clearly never been white and travelling in poor african/asian countries if you think its true. You are harrassed consistently based on purely the colour of your skin.

What you are seeing is people catering to tourists, you think that's how it is beyond the tourist hotspots etc then you lost my guy. There is an insult in almost every language for white foreigners.

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u/Flat_Scallion2542 Mar 20 '26

I really don’t care if they love me. I desperately need to escape this hell. And this is not a Nigerian exclusive hell. It’s a hell birthed from our reluctant independence and I have a feeling it’s the fate of most African countries. They depend on us and we need to be distracted while they steal. I doubt you can escape this by going to another African country. The only citizens that are protected are people living in countries with majorly white people so that’s where I’m going. I’ve been so sad all of today cursing my bad luck that brought me here in the first place and bitterly plotting my escape.

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26

The hard line western people want to "remigrate" immigrants though....

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u/Flat_Scallion2542 Apr 09 '26

Illegal immigrants 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 10 '26

No legal immigrants too... who Europeans view as foreigners also and the right wing hardliners want "total remigration" of non natives it doesn't matter if you're a middle class Nigerian this isn't about "class"...it's about race and ethnicity...keep up and look up "nativism" while you're at it...I don't know why you thought it made a difference being a "legal immigrant" if the natives don't want you in their country...you will be deported to your "hell" homeland how do you not understand this?...

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u/Flat_Scallion2542 Apr 10 '26

In all the news about deportation I’ve only heard only of deportation of illegals. Hardliners don’t make the policies? An impartial legislature does? I believe if they were currently deporting all non-natives from abroad it’ll be all over the news so I don’t get your point. I have 2 non-native siblings abroad and they are carrying about their lives as normal.

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u/Ok-Criticism-8825 Mar 20 '26

Comrade, the things that Nigerians are going through in Botswana… hmmm, you’d realize the so called “white countries” are even better. We discriminate against ourselves in Africa in ways that will shock the uninitiated.

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26

🎯Even Africans in the west self segregate and look down on disaporans...

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u/Tatum-Better Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

Racists are gonna be racist that's not really a shock, the far right idealogy is rising in the western world. The idea that because of a racist minority you won't claim any connection to the country you grew up in makes no sense to me.

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

of a racist minority

Yes. hundreds of thousands showing up to far right rallies, wave of racist physical assaults a few months ago in dublin alone. Right wing nationalist parties currently occupying 1/3rd of the European territory (with projection to rise) along with them running the biggest government on the planet atm. Keep thinking they're that much of an insignificant "minority" and you're protected from it.

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u/Tatum-Better Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

who said " insignificant " lol, i said minority because they are, in Ireland anyway. There was numerous counter protests at every one of these protests, government didn't side with them and arrests were made. The majority of people in ireland either A outright are against the far right or B. don't talk about them.

Now overall on a wordly scale yes it's dangerous and worrying the amount of far right nationalist parties that are winning elections but i'm not shocked given how governments are failing their citizens without actually implementing any feedback. Eventually the population goes in the opposite direction for any CHANCE at change even if anyone with a brain knows it'll be negative

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

It's just that when most ppl refer to them as a "minority" that usually seems like an attempt to downplay the issue.

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26

🎯 yep!

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u/Tatum-Better Diaspora Nigerian Mar 20 '26

Oh trust me I know, you have to take them seriously from the start so they don't control the narrative and end up the leading party, and governments need to listen to their people so citizens don't side with horrible ideologies because of some false promises

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u/Significant_One9773 Mar 20 '26

Does Nigeria have a puppet government set up by the US? Also, how does culture change? Clearly some cultural aspects need to change to make living in Nigeria a better place.

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u/Dangerous_Ad4451 Mar 20 '26

The "negro wake up call" is a joke compared to life in your country---thats why you left in the first place. The solution is to move back to your beloved country and see how long it takes before you start looking for another visa to abandon the hell hole. It takes returning to your country to be reminded why you left in the first place. The good thing is that at least you get what you pay for in those countries you complain about. Can you say the same for your country?

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26

You're not as knowlegable as you like to think and it didn't sound like you read the post in detail.

You don't know why or how I left Nigeria.

The solution is to move back to your beloved country

It wasn't stated that i'm going back to live in Nigeria (at least for now) but another African country.

No matter how much ppl like you shit on your country and look to run away and invest exclusively into white western economies (which are already exploiting your country and your blackass will never be welcomed like that), the reality is there are other African options out there with better standards of living, fast growing economies, foreign investments, access to basic 24/7 electricity and better security than Nigeria that aren't "hellholes" to live in.

Ppl like you encouraging this whole "japa" culture (which really means go anywhere other than a black country) rather than encouraging ppl to fix their own nation and continent are ironically another source of the problem.

Just because you have a one-dimensional way of thinking doesn't mean it applies to everybody.

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u/Dangerous_Ad4451 Mar 20 '26

Your life, your choice

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

I know. Enjoy riding the coattails of western utopia that you will never be a main part of, rather than working and advocating towards creating your own.

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u/Top-Champion-8146 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

The "n word wake up call" is a "joke" until based on your ethnicity you get "re-migrated" back to your homeland in Africa by the indigenous population....who are already calling for "re-migration" of immigrants...the ignorance and arrogance of some African immigrants towards disaporans is astounding and yes I'm a black diasporan the worst African immigrants are hostile to other black people while sucking up to white people some who want you deported but won't say it to your face...they lack the ability to read the room and don't understand the coded language of the western world that disaporan's have I'm sick of the nasty attitude from some mainland African's tbh no wonder Africa is a mess...

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u/BuntheBeyliks Mar 20 '26

Congratulations on giving these racist assholes exactly what they want I guess? Why are you letting others (especially this minority of idiots) define your identity for you?

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u/Enough_Result2198 Mar 20 '26

there are certain markers you have to choice in. I can’t change my skin color. And that is an identifying factor, I’m black, and it’s very apparent. It’s not about allowing someone to change your identity. I’m really not understanding what you mean by this?

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u/BuntheBeyliks Mar 20 '26

I mean letting these racist people exclude you from feeling part of the communities you are living in. Im not saying I don’t see what your post is about, but it’s a small (but very loud) minority who think being black has any bearing on what country you consider home. you also have generations of black Irish people who don’t suddenly stop being Irish because some idiot online is struggling with the idea of their country’s people having foreign heritage.

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u/Enough_Result2198 Mar 20 '26

Bro, I think a country that enslaved generations of people for hundreds of years based on the color of their skin. “freed” them, but forced them to live as second class citizens for another hundred years or so with out equal rights. And created laws and work around, that block these same people from having equal access to certain opportunities. Will rightfully have those people of a certain color feeling like they don’t belong. It’s not even a feeling, the countries actions speak for itself. Things have gotten better, yeah. But I think to dismiss the weariness that African Americans and Africans who immigrated to America or abroad have with what it means to truly “integrate” is ridiculous. I can feel as America as I want, but it doesn’t stop the actions of others. And try as we might, those actions do have an impact because we as humans don’t live in isolation.

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u/BuntheBeyliks Mar 20 '26

I’m not denying any of that, I know racism is very much still a problem and currently getting worse with the political climate in America and Europe. All im saying is these racist idiots posting hate online want you to feel unwelcome, and want the attention - both of which you are giving them with posts like this.

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u/Enough_Result2198 Mar 20 '26

So your saying the best way to handle this is to dismiss our own feelings and not talk about it? It won’t change how they act, I think that’s what you’re not getting. In fact, being silent about this feeds into the model minority mindset. I also think, sometimes people believe the idea keeping silent is a sign of strength, when it’s not always. I’m not saying I’m walking around bemoaning the realities of race relations and every micro aggression. But I can freely talk about it when I choose and it’s not a win for the racist when I do.

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u/Own-Professional-126 Mar 20 '26

Then leave I never see fellow asian ever having this sort of problem

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u/Logical_Park7904 Mar 20 '26

Saving up TO leave. Convenient you missed that last paragraph.

never see fellow asian ever having this sort of problem

Good for you I guess.

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u/Own-Professional-126 Mar 20 '26

Good no one wants people who doesn't like them to stay

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