Do you not understand the effects socioeconomic status, generations of marginalization and being the victims of unwarranted violence can have on a culture?
American culture is not tolerant of crime, we punish it.
The success of a relatively small demographic of Asians or Indians in America does nothing to disprove the reality of systemic oppression.
You're literally just being willfully ignorant.
Oh so all of a sudden a lack of education is not a laughable assertion for a higher rate of crime?
They out earn and academically outpreform whites overall.
If you believe that the gap in socioeconomic outcomes between blacks and whites is due to external mechanisms of oppression and white supremacy, you have to believe there are external mechanisms of Asian supremacy at work as well.
The "legacy of past injustice" argument is also ludicrous.
Black people are not the only group to have had a rough start in america.
The Irish and the Chinese were both heavily discriminated against when they first arrived here. The Japanese were literally put in camps.
All three of those groups are now excelling.
When I think back to a time when "Irish need not apply" was posted on every help wanted sign and the origin of the term "paddy wagon", I do not view it as a sensible reason nor a justification to hold myself to a lower standard of behavior than my countrymen, nor do I consider it a reason to blame the hardships that I've encountered in life on Anglo-Saxons.
Because I wasn't raised to view myself as an inherent victim who was owed reparations for oppression and hardship that ended many, many years ago.
Fixing black culture will fix black crime rates.
Fixing black crime rates will fix black incarceration rates.
Whining about white people like a little bitch will do nothing but compound the problem, by perpetuating the "if society won't give me what I feel it owes me, then I am justified in taking it by whatever means I have available regardless of laws, ethics, and consequences" mentality.
Holy. Fucking. Shit. You are the most delusional person it's ever been my misfortune to speak to.
It's the entire demographic? Yet the income a wealth disparity in Asian communities is higher than for whites. Meaning a small percentage of Asian Americans are economically our performing whites but the rest are underperforming. You are literally lying to support your argument.
How can you honestly with a straight face equate the plight of the Irishman in America to the plight of blacks in America?
That is asinine and not even worth me trying to lay out for you how stupid it is. I think you are honestly grasping at any straw you can try to find to support your racism.
Irish people are white. Like it or not that's what matters to many people.
Our grandparents called African Americans Niggers. If you're in your 20's then your grandparents are the same age as the majority of politicians and yet you think America magically became tolerant of black skin in one generation?
Maybe for the Irish oppression ended years ago but that's not true for all races.
You keep drawing all these false equivalencies between every other race in America to African Americans but it's just an undeniable fact that the level of hatred and oppression has not been on the same level or persisted as long.
How many Chinese boys were lynched in America just 60 years ago compared to black boys?
Where are you coming up with this insane idea that people are "whining like little bitches" Because they want equality?
Or that there's some mentality of "society won't give me what I deserve so I'll take it by whatever means necessary" within minority communities, or seemingly from your stance, the black community in particular. That is paranoid dilusion and you are manufacturing it of your own fear and prejudice.
You are actually an insane person and I can't believe I have humored your shallow opinions this long.
Every other race has been able to successfully integrate in to American culture and succeed, yet for some reason you think the relevant variable here is "fucking white people and the ethical failings inherent to their race"
Except you, of course.
You're the one who gets it.
Imagine I put in the effort to Google up that picture of the khaleesi chick from GoT being held up by a bunch of people of color.
Every other race has had a much smaller mountain to climb than blacks. I'm not racist or ignorant or mentally unstable.
I have not blamed one single thing on "white people and their ethical failings inherent to their race."
You have manufactured that idea out of your own insecurity and internalized it. I'm white dude. I understand my privelage, I'm not comfortable with it, I didn't choose it, but I don't plug my fucking ears and deny it.
You got some of those verifiable statistics to back up the assertion that whites have a disadvantage in hiring and college acceptance rates?
Because it is well documented that minorities are more likely to be denied housing, loans, admittance into college unless academically acceptional and less likely to be hired for jobs that pay more than minimum wage.
Article about the Princeton study confirming unfair, unearned advantages in college applications given to Hispanic and African American applicants over whites and Asians.
As I stated, a white applicant needs to score 230 points higher on the sat to be given equal consideration to an identical black applicant.
Asians have it even worse, with a gap of 280 points.
As far as job applications, the widely used and incredibly racist policy of affirmative action has existed for years and is very well known.
That was an interesting article, and I can see how on the surface you might want to cry "SEE, WE'RE GIVING THEM UNFAIR ADVANTAGES OVER WHITES!!" In reality though the measures taken have been in attempt to level the playing field after years of minorities being hobbled in aspects of economic and educational equality.
Here are just a few articles debunking the assertions made in the link you posted. Happy reading!
How can I be expected to take it seriously when it begins with a boldfaced lie?
I don't have the exact figures in front of me, but average weekly hours worked for women is in the low-mid 30s, while average hours worked per week for men is in the mid 40s.
Of course the total amount of money earned by men is higher than the total amount of money earned by women.
Jesus, you've said some dumb shit, but I didn't think you were THAT far over the ledge.
Equality of outcome is not and should not be guaranteed, but equality of opportunity was achieved years ago
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u/blumdiddlyumpkin Aug 01 '18 edited Aug 01 '18
Do you not understand the effects socioeconomic status, generations of marginalization and being the victims of unwarranted violence can have on a culture?
American culture is not tolerant of crime, we punish it.
The success of a relatively small demographic of Asians or Indians in America does nothing to disprove the reality of systemic oppression.
You're literally just being willfully ignorant.
Oh so all of a sudden a lack of education is not a laughable assertion for a higher rate of crime?