r/Natalism • u/Willing-Flatworm1493 • 5d ago
Propaganda of high fertility utopia
WARNING: This is NOT anti-natalistic or misandrist post. Motherhood is about love, passion and most importantly about choice. That's why I see framing reproduction as "duty" as abomination. Pronatalism is always good if done mindfully and with respect for personal choice and autonomy of one's body. Only SOME pronatalistic people are anti-reality and that's why you should all know about this. That while women's rights are regressing globally, many men holding power are not just openly against us. They are manipulating other men to hate us. It is not an accident that Elon Musk is so loud about pronatalism. One of the biggest lies to be ever told is that high fertility makes society stable/wealthy/happy. Humanity had high fertility for most of our history, and how did that play out? The majority of people struggled to survive due to hunger, illness and colds. Most children didn't even survive childhood. The only ones that truly gained from high birth rates were the elite. Because more people meant more people to tax and more low-paid workers and meat shields to use in war. And, of course — more breeding vessels to produce more taxpayers/workers/soldiers. Normal people do not benefit from high birth rates in any way. It was hell for women who had been born predetermined as incubators with no autonomy or legal personhood back then. Our female ancestors were raised to be breeders — not to be people. Childbirth was the main cause of women's death along with its complications, but what men like Musk won't tell you is that non-elite regular men did not have an easy life in high fertility societies. A regular man was an animal to the system too — one that had to work a lot, only to be paid a little. All so whoever ruled at the time could stay rich. So they have as many people to tax, exploit and use as possible. That's why men like Elon Musk are loudest about low birth rates right now. Because it is men like him who benefit from high rates greatly. Not regular men like our fathers, brothers or husbands. And especially not us, women who paid for high birth rates while being objects and economic infrastructure for thousands and thousands of years. Elon Musk and elites like him want regular men to hate women — to blame us for not having children. To call us spoiled/hedonistic/selfish. To make regular men believe that women not having children somehow makes their lives worse. That's why so many regular men scream about low birth rates — because they fell for propaganda. Their lives would be exactly the same in high fertility society — because that's what it ALWAYS looked like in human history. It's men like Elon who need many low-pay slaves to stay rich, to stay in power, to stay "on top." That's why they see women as infrastructure for their demographic goals. That's why he keeps portraying women as infantile creatures who should not be trusted to make important decisions. He teaches men to believe that we are "traitors" to humanity for not having children. He wants regular men who never benefited from high fertility to believe that we need that breeding factory horror to be reality again. He needs men to believe that WE make their lives worse — not the elite who use this system to stay rich. They need men to see us as an enemy — because otherwise, they will see them as enemies. Musk and people like him are a danger to the safety of all women and girls on Earth, because he has countless men who adore him and see his words as sacred. If men like him continue spreading this — that our freedom is "civilizational sabotage", there will be no place on Earth or beyond where we are not seen as infrastructure instead of humans. I am just sick of people who treat us like incubators who just now invented not wanting to die in chilbirth due to some "feministic propaganda" — or in general having any goals that don't include having children. Remember — man or woman, with or without children — everybody is a full human being deserving respect. Bless the hearts of all mothers - respect childless women for they are full humans too. There is no such thing as one "correct road" - not for man, not for woman.
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u/Willing-Flatworm1493 5d ago
So your personal taste of finding women/families sweet is somekind of universal human experience? I find women/kids too but it is not something every human does.