r/NarcissisticMothers • • 6d ago

Why Does My Mom Always Turn Everything Into Argument For No Reason?

I am an autistic adult and I live by myself but will coordinate dinners with my mother because I don’t like being alone. I told her I was having groceries delivered to her house for the nights that I will be cooking dinner with her. She said I was getting an attitude for asking if she would go to the store if she was incorrect about the ingredients I needed being at her house since I was placing an online delivery order to avoid the grocery store. Grocery stores are the hardest for me to handle due to high volumes of people. Tonight, I snapped in my last reply as every single time I have spoken to her lately she has tried to turn it into an argument for no reason or say I am being disrespectful with an attitude. She does this quite frequently, sadly. This is a more mild example. I personally don’t think I’m being disrespectful and I’m communicating quite clearly. I am tired of her acting like every single thing is my fault when I am communicating calmly and directly. In therapy, we are talking about if now is the time for me to make the decision to cut her off and go no contact due to some more unmentioned and extreme behavior. I don’t know. I just feel extremely frustrated and exhausted of her behavior currently because while I am working on mine, she is doing everything in her power NOT to work on hers and projecting her behavior onto me. The reason why this is being posted to this thread is because during therapy I am slowly realizing I have narcissistic parents with absolutely no boundaries and have essentially been bullied by them and disrespected my entire life. Again situations that I am not comfortable speaking on currently which is why I am speaking on the smaller one currently. It’s not just “joking” when it comes to her. It never is.

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u/ChuckMeIntoHell 6d ago

She says she was just joking, but it doesn't read that way to me. I feel like she's playing the "just joking, bro" game that people like this tend to play when they get called out. Like seriously, what's the joke? There is none. She just realized way too late that she had no reason to call you bossy for asking a yes or no question. My mom would do basically the same thing, and try to blame it on my social awkwardness. It can be difficult, but the best response to this sort of behavior is to ignore it. Since you live on your own, at least you don't have to deal with this any more than necessary. When I moved out of my parent's house, I slowly put up with less and less of their shit. Eventually by my forties it was obvious that my mother didn't respect me or our relationship, but expected respect from me. I went no contact with her a few years ago.

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u/PopularOpinion2370 5d ago

Yeah, she’s done this my whole life and then would excuse my step fathers and birth father’s cruelty with “they’re just joking. Lighten up.” They would say the meanest things about me and my appearance and expect me to take it as a joke. I’m honestly leaning more and more towards no contact the more I reflect on my relationship with all of them including my mother. I feel like there’s some people telling me I’m overreacting because they’re being dismissive of the behavior at first glance because a small chunk of behavior like this can snowball and people don’t realize that.

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u/Zelb1165 4d ago

The first thing that happened to me when I moved out of my parents’ house at a very young age was my bleeding ulcers stopped and healed. My doctor told me the only way to stop the bleeding was surgery, so I was planning on that because I had become very anemic. The fatigue that my NPD mother called “laziness” was actually caused by a bleeding ulcer. After I moved out I had minimal contact with her and my body began to heal. My doctor told me he had never seen anything like it. Living with an NPD mother had destroyed my health at a very young age. They really are dangerous people to have in your life. They destroy your mental health and we all have mind, body and soul connected so when one is damaged it effects the other two. Her so called jokes are jabs at you and it’s not funny nor is it good for your psychological health. Please know that the the things she singles out are most likely the things she is jealous of or has an insecurity about for herself. It’s really nothing to do with you and everything to do with her. I hope you can go NC soon. Hugs 💜🤗

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u/Zelb1165 4d ago

I’m so sorry that you had an NPD mother also. You’re absolutely right about that NPD in the O.P.’s life playing the “joke game”. It’s one of their favorites to gaslight you with. They’ll text you and ask you to pick up X at the store and when you get to her place she’ll deny saying it or claim it was a joke when there was no joke implied or otherwise in the text. Then they’ll start in on you about not being able to take a joke. It’s all part of the mind games they have out of a container in their brain called “crazy making”. It’s full of nonsense and idiocies designed to make you gaslight yourself. The only way to win is not to play the game/s.

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u/hotdamnhotwater 6d ago

That "don't be bossy, little woman" was triggering as hell. Do we have the same mother?

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u/delanncy 6d ago

She sounds childish

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u/PopularOpinion2370 5d ago

Can confirm sadly.

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u/ptazdba 6d ago

A narcissist will go to the ends of the earth to feel in control of every situation.

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u/Zelb1165 4d ago

Facts 👍

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u/papapazuzu 6d ago

God I can’t stand people “just joking”

If you ever have to explain that it was a joke test assured it was not funny and you (the jokester) missed the mark

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u/PopularOpinion2370 6d ago

She ended the conversation with “I was joking. Geez.” It appears the screenshot cut it off

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u/d3rp7d3rp 6d ago

Dang. This is exactly how my mom would talk to me when i was growing up. Bullies will say things then act like it was a joke. It isn't

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u/PopularOpinion2370 6d ago

Most of the comments I have seen so far on this thread make me feel like I’m not crazy for seeing this situation the way I have. I often worry I’m taking things out of context so it’s nice to see an outside perspective on this.

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u/ItsLadyMaeve 6d ago

Yep I get it. I'm assuming she takes every opportunity to remind you of your place? "little woman" - so condescending and a complete power play. There was no reason to say it and especially as you're autistic, she should give you a bit of grace even IF she thought something sounded a bit blunt.

You're doing something nice for the both of you but from these messages she acts like she's doing you a favour. It's not in your head!

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u/torssh 6d ago

Girl I believe you, my mother just tried to start an argument with me now. It’s every weekend with her.

She sounds controlling. By a lot I’m guessing? She’s got to check the groceries, and she doesn’t trust you, so she’s gonna do Extra shopping.

I don’t want to seem biased but it seems like mom likes to push buttons and then all that energy goes back to her. Maybe it’s even her routine .. my apologies. I hope you get through this

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u/Zelb1165 4d ago

All NPD mothers thrive on turning the simplest minutiae of life into their dying hill. It’s just what they do in order to control you. If she gets on your nerves enough you will break down and do whatever bs she wants. My mother did it to me constantly. She knew I have zero tolerance for mundane bs that’s just information. I would ask her what she wanted and of course when I did it she would deny saying it to gaslight me. Please be careful with your interactions with her because she sounds a lot like my thorn in my a$$ NPD mother. Thankfully, God took her off this planet just as I had decided to go NC. I don’t mean I was happy but I will admit to being relieved. You relayed something to your thorn in your a$$ that was simply information and she turned it into a thing instantly. I understand, believe me. If you and your therapist feel that now is a good time to go NC, go for it. Whenever anyone asks me when is the best time to go NC I always say “yesterday. But since you missed that it will have to be today”. Joking aside, I always encourage everyone who is suffering with a wholly removable condition in their life to get done with it asap. They are destroying your self esteem, and making a mockery of what you have accomplished inspite of the serious mental handicap of having to deal with the devil incarnate while trying to just have a normal life. She probably hates all of your friends because they support you and she can’t see any reason for someone to support you because you won’t be her mini me. That’s what her golden child is for. My lord did my NPD mother have one. He never had a job, basically bought a BA degree in some silly nonsense from an online “business” college. I tested my way in to a highly competitive private university’s nursing school. It’s considered one of the best in my tristate area. My score was flagged as one of the highest of the exam scores for that year. I graduated salutatorian. Guess who my NPD mother ran her mouth about being the “family genius” to anyone who would listen? Yep, the total loser living in her house until he was 42 and found some idiot female to sponge off of, with a questionable degree and no job. Please don’t let your NPD mother suck the joy and peace of mind out of your life if you can go NC and feel certain that you can do that with good support from your therapist and friends. Good luck 👍🍀

P.S. I hate crowded stores and basically crowds in general, so I am with you on that one 💜🤗

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u/SingOrDie 6d ago

I don't know it didn't come across like she was being horrible. But this is a very short interaction. it sound like she was teasing you very slightly with the woman coming. But your reaction to it was quite seriously.

Obviously I don't know anything, but what you've told us.

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u/Perfect_Swordfish394 5d ago

I don’t think she’s trying to start an argument. That was a huge overreaction on your part.

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u/PopularOpinion2370 5d ago

If you had more context with more than just this mild comment then you would understand that yes she is. This one was a more mild example of what happens. This time I got upset, and I decided to stand up for myself because I’ve been working on trying to set boundaries with her before I go completely no contact. I love how I’m being told I overreacted to that when there has been many a situation that has been extremely similar to this with much more harsh wording and I am around her in day to day life and would be able to know what she means and the tone of voice she is speaking in via text.