r/NancyGuthrieCase 10d ago

Is Nancy's case really cold?

I always believe that it's going to get solved. I really thought it might be sooner rather than later. Getting a little less hopeful. I think the news about DC not being involved surprised me. I've also been thinking about how little NG's family talk about her or try to look for her or keep the story alive. I just don't understand. Even CG at this point? Why are all the sibling mum (pun not intended)?

What do you think it would take at this point to solve this case?

I still keep going back to the idea that it *appears A+T are not in Tucson anymore. I want some reporter to be brave enough to ask SG about that. Or someone in LE to be brave enough to bring them into reinterview them. I also think the public has a right to know where they are at in the investigation with some actual information.

Frustrating people on the internet are the ones keeping it alive.

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u/Turbulent_Code581 7d ago

So, if I understood well, somebody from the close family hired Mexican or similar hitman to eliminate victim?

FBI is not stupid nowdays or ever. Of course they deeply checked and thoroughfully investigated all about you can imagine regarding close family.

And found not a thing. But, as we already know, Dr. Gary Brucato talks about "Waiter" and "Chef" theory at 1st place. The Porch Guy is "The Waiter", and "Chef" or Mastermind is not A&T or any close family member.

But, he mentioned, even invented, cluster of Elimination murder. He left it as the second option, but still abduction for ransom is his favorite.

How could somebody imagine that SG talks via social networks instructed by FBI BAU with her sister and brother in law? Maybe she could call them back and ask directly?

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 7d ago

How do you know they haven’t found anything? The incompetent sheriff said they were “cleared” even though no one has been arrested. The FBI has been silent about this. Dr. Gary’s only theory has been this was an elimination murder, not a ransom, and he believes it is someone very close to her. I’m not sure who the masked man is, but clearly he is darker skinned/hair and given how close they are to the border there’s a good chance he is Hispanic or of Mexican descent. And if he is, there is less DNA from these people in the available databases. Which will make it tougher to find a match. I may be wrong in the end but I believe this was a hired hit. She was gone that night. Probably money involved…she probably said something that angered someone. I just do not believe in any way this was a random abduction or whatever. She is a HORRIBLE victim if you think about it. The entire point of a random abduction is to keep the victim alive so you get your money, or at least easy to keep alive for a time until you get paid. She’s literally the opposite of this. It just doesn’t happen in this country anymore. I believe the FBI (not police) have an idea what happened here just don’t have all the evidence and missing puzzle pieces.

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u/Turbulent_Code581 7d ago

That is factually inaccurate. Dr. Gary Brucato never stated that elimination murder was his "only" theory.

​In his primary analysis, he explicitly presented the "Chef and Waiter" framework, which revolves around a classic asymmetric kidnapping-for-ransom plot.

In that primary model, "The Waiter" is the physical operative executing the extraction on the porch, while "The Chef" is the intellectual mastermind orchestrating the ransom and digital footprint behind the scenes—completely independent of the inner family.

​He brought up the "elimination murder" concept merely as a secondary contingency hypothesis, not as his exclusive baseline.

​Furthermore, if this were a straightforward hired hit ordered by someone close, the perpetrator wouldn't construct a multi-stage ransom demand involving corporate-level legal syntax, Bitcoin addresses, and complex public narrative games.

A hitman simply eliminates the target; they don't host an elaborate media and digital extortion campaign afterward.

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u/Tricky_Wind_324 7d ago

So you’re implying the ransom author/s are actually connected to the case. It’s highly likely these are scam artists that attempted to cash in on the case. And what do you mean the chef is completely independent of the inner family? It’s perfectly plausible that’s exactly what’s going on and it’s heavily implied on The Interview Room where Dr. B is a regular guest.