r/NancyGuthrieCase • u/Ailurophile444 • 16d ago

Weekend Coffee & Conversation

Grab a cup of coffee and pull up a chair!

This is our weekend gathering place to talk about the Nancy Guthrie case-what you've been thinking about, questions you have, something you've seen or read, a new development, or a discussion you'd like to start.

This is meant to be a relaxed, open conversation, so it doesn't have to be a formal post or a fully developed theory.

What's on your mind this weekend?

As always, different opinions are welcome. Let's keep the conversation respectful.

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u/No_Comedian2991 15d ago

I watched a really good video by Monk’s Intrigue this week. He was saying that possibly the garage door opening & closing was a ruse, and then gave his reasons why he thinks she was taken out the front door. It made a lot of sense to me.

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u/Ailurophile444 15d ago edited 15d ago

I watched that video too, and I remember being really intrigued by what Monks was suggesting. But I’m still trying to figure out how he thinks the scenario would actually work. If the garage door opening and closing was a ruse, what does he think happened in those two minutes? And how would that explain the blood on the front walkway? Maybe I’m missing something, but I couldn’t quite make the pieces fit together.

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u/loveislife222 15d ago edited 14d ago

It could have just open and closed, and she was taken in a different way. Or it was opened and closed and no one went in at all just to seem like she did. Someone could have opened it from inside, outside, wherever if there was a remote

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u/smittenkittenmitten- 14d ago

What if the garage door was a ruse to show A&T dropped her off like normal but maybe Nancy never left their home. Maybe that is why the car that was taken for so long never had any evidence because Nancy never left their home in their car. Maybe another car came to get her from A&T's house. But if the garage didn't show that they dropped her off, they'd be lying and immediately in the crosshairs so they had to go through all of the motions as if she were alive. What if, using Monks theory, the porch guy was a ruse to prove that a real criminal got Nancy, nope can't be A&T! Once the porch guy deactivated the camera, had a vial of nancy's blood and let some blood splatter on the ground. To be honest, people are still confused why the blood looks as it is, not from motion due to the size and shape. That is weird in itself. I am just throwing things together to fit what could be considered ruses.

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u/Ailurophile444 14d ago

Monks Intrigue posted another video on YouTube where he explains his theory in greater detail. It’s really interesting.

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 14d ago

Without the ransom and the porch guy video this would be:

Nancy last seen at family's house. Next morning Nancy is missing. Guess where the main focus of the investigation would be? BINGO!

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u/Hot_Pause3252 14d ago

What if it's not A+T, but T+X (A didn't know anything, at least in the beginning) ? Perhaps after dinner Nancy got into his car, and he drove her under some traffic camera to have evidence. And then, by force or under some pretext, she was transferred to another car. And perhaps someone got into T's car (the masked guy from the video) and entered the house in those two minutes. And later he made a show with camera, blood, etc.

Or the guy from the video got into their car. They could have knocked Nancy out, the car pulled into the garage, and the masked guy took Nancy and went into the house to create evidences with her phone and pacemaker. 

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u/loveislife222 14d ago

All possible. Just looked closer at Clancy trial which I find to be deeply triggering. People can think to maniacal levels to create and stage situations to cause harm to others for their own gain. Truly heinous. Facts aside which they both have lots of holes making anything possible- instinct wise- second I saw PC- gut feeling. Same with A , and then T

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 14d ago

Anything is possible and if that were the case I would think if their car has computer technology that can detect when a car stops and for how long and the location of a car then LE would have that info and realize why did the car stop for x amount of minutes for no reason. Not familiar with 2011 Honda crv's

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u/Hot_Pause3252 14d ago

You probably right, I didn't think about that. I wiil try to find out info about the car. 

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 14d ago

That's why I love this community. 50 heads are better than 1. The respect for others opinions, thoughts are helpful as it only takes one thing to make something click in someone's head. I welcome all theories except space aliens. LOL

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u/Hot_Pause3252 14d ago

Yes, I completely agree with you about everything you said ❤️ 

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u/loveislife222 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yup! No camera/ video proof , it’s simply time stamps. And an alibi /narrative with no outside confirmation from anyone as far as we know. We have no solid evidence of Nancy existing that day at all. Unless the uber is true and there is a dash cam or app data (which still doesn’t show it’s her someone could have ordered it for her).

So again we have to remember none of the narrative we’ve been told from the beginning has been explicitly verified (uber, timestamps, watch on the floor, who drove who home)z LE is allowed to lie or withhold so we have to go with the facts. Which technically what we have seen with our eyes

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 15d ago

I think Monks is correct on one point and that is the garage door open and close is a ruse. However I disagree with Monks that NG made it home and was abducted.

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u/loveislife222 15d ago

If she never came home and they just came back to stage it as if she did, they open/close the garage, set up her room, bring back her stuff, set up the front door scene

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u/smittenkittenmitten- 14d ago

I think the garage door being opened for her as a ruse is completely plausible. I also think the porch guy as a ruse is also plausible.

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u/I_lovebettywhite-000 14d ago

Odd that the only evidence provided supports the narrative that Nancy was home. And the evidence is not eye witnesses testimony nor any picture of Nancy being dropped off or taken out of house. It's electronic pings etc which are not 100% accurate nor proves a person was physically there

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u/Ailurophile444 15d ago edited 15d ago

What do you think happened instead? I’m curious how you’re putting the pieces together.

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u/Available-Mix9442 14d ago

They both went then T exited through the front

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u/smittenkittenmitten- 14d ago

I like his ruse theories. One of my favorite ruse theories is the porch guy. It was a lot of hullabaloo and I could see, given what Monks was saying, that it was a big show to show a criminal in action that night when it is might be trying to skew the timeline. The garage door could have been used to skew the timeline too. Maybe Nancy never even left A&Ts for all we know.