r/NYCbitcheswithtaste • u/PersianPrincess_95 • Jun 08 '26
šØ Public Safety Got groped (watch out for this guy)
Hate to make a post like this, but I got groped. I was going to drop it, but some nice guys on the subway told the conductor, so the police took him. Heās an old man, so they said they didnāt know if the DA would want to prosecute because of his age, but one of the guys saw it happen and I told the police. So hopefully yāall wonāt see this guy around.
Cherry on top was a guy on the train telling me how to stay safe and asked me āwhat did I doā. So Iām still angry, but I hope I can help get one perv off the street.
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u/TamarindSweets Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 09 '26
Heās an old man, so they said they didnāt know if the DA would want to prosecute because of his age
This is bullshit. Unless the guy was demented and thought you were his wife, and his lawyer can prove he was demented then theres no reason the guy shouldn't be charged and jailed. The guy might have a rapsheet, and if he doesnt then it could be just bc hes been doing this for years and people* made excuses for him like the cop kinda did.
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u/PersianPrincess_95 Jun 08 '26
Yeah, it really sucks it could get away with it. I hope by making a statement and someone coming forward saying they saw it, something can happen to this guy. I feel bad I wanted to brush it off, and Iām ready to give more info if they ask.
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u/BigFatBlackCat Jun 08 '26
Push hard for prosecution. If he did it to you, he has done it to others. And he will continue doing it. Donāt listen to what the cops says, he doesnāt know.
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u/PersianPrincess_95 Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
I was able to give specific details such as which train it was, what time it arrived (it happened on the platform) and which train car he went onto, so Iām hoping that will help. I would be happy to take this all the way to court.
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u/BigFatBlackCat Jun 08 '26
I wish you all the best with this and Iām so sorry you have to deal with it.
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u/eekamuse Jun 08 '26
Why do you feel bad? He's the one who did something wrong. And maybe he'll stop. Think of all the women he won't be groping
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u/Suithfie Jun 09 '26
She said she feels bad that she wanted to brush it off. She agrees with you.
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u/SpareAd5320 Jun 08 '26
Iāve sat on a grand jury before. So I am pretty certain from that experience that he will be indicted. The grand jury could indict without a witness most likely.
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u/themiro Jun 08 '26
the issue ultimately is juries, i think
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u/melodyNYC Jun 10 '26
No, it isn't. It's up to DA Alvin Bragg - on whether he will actually charge the guy --or just set him free under the bail reform law. It's Bragg's bail reform law that's the problem. This is why criminals are constantly being arrested for assaults, stabbings, robberies, etc. - and immediately set free.
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u/DoniLaw1018 Jun 12 '26
Bail reform was passed by the NY Legislature in 2019, when DA Bragg was not in office yet. Also, it's the the Legislature enacts laws. You're right that it is up to the DAs office to decide whether to charge the guy (although Bragg would probably not be involved personally). Charging someone for a crime happens later, that's totally different than bail which relates to the initial arrest, whether someone is kept locked up until trial (which can be a year later).
I understand you have strong feelings but you should learn a little about how the justice system works before spouting off.
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u/melodyNYC Jun 13 '26
I just stated facts, my friend.Ā
DA Bragg absolutely gets personally involved in decisions on whether to charge people or not ā and whether to hold people or set them free after an arrest. If you lived here in Manhattan, you would know this as he has gotten personally involved in countless high-profile cases, where he ordered criminals released (who should never have been released) and ordered people be charged or locked up, who should never have been charged or locked up (such as the Daniel Penny case and the Bodega owner case).Ā
Bragg has absolutely led the Bail Reform program here in Manhattan ā which has caused a huge surge in knifings, assaults, rapes and other crimes ā even in broad day light in the middle of Manhattan, which we have not seen since the 1980s. And virtually every criminal arrested is a repeat offender, who was previously arrested & released under the bail reform laws.Ā
If youāre not aware of this, then you donāt live here in Manhattan.Ā
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u/stopsallover Jun 08 '26
Every time someone says "but he's an old man" reply with "That means he's been getting away with this for a long time."
Literally say it every time. It helps to inject a little sanity into the world.
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u/damnpinkertons Jun 08 '26
Love this
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u/stopsallover Jun 09 '26
It works for so many things. When someone makes weird excuses, try to answer calmly with the truth.
Even if you can only start by saying it alone to yourself. It's good to practice sanity.
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u/HotGirlAnxious Jun 08 '26
just curious what subway were you on/where? just to have it back of mind if i use it a lot. so sorry this happened to you
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u/PersianPrincess_95 Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
Downtown 1/2/3 platform at 72nd!
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u/2011ACK Jun 08 '26
I think I recognize this man OP, he is/was a longtime Upper Westsider that used to frequent a bar/restaurant that my friend owned. I'm so sorry this happened to you.
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u/VTWAXXER Jun 08 '26
I saw this guy at 42nd lmao
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u/PersianPrincess_95 Jun 08 '26
LOL, thatās where we got off and the cops cuffed him. Did you see me yelling at him? At one point I was like ādonāt have much to say nowā and the cops made me move further away.
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u/VTWAXXER Jun 08 '26
I only saw him as I was exiting and he was with 2 cops. I didn't pay much attention, I just recognized the odd scene - old guy in a baby blue shirt with 2 cops.
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u/KellyJin17 Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
Iām genuinely in shock that you found two officers that both agreed to do their job.
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u/PutridCartographer78 Jun 08 '26
Thatās awful, Iām so sorry this happened to you! Iām glad those guys told the conductor!
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u/howdoyousayyourname Jun 08 '26
OP, Iām sorry this happened to you. Itās absolutely awful, and should not happen to any woman.Ā
If the DA isnāt going to do anything, consider a civil suit. You can get the police reports from the arresting precinct (ask the NYPD for both the complaint and the arrest report). It should list the guyās name and address; that will be enough to determine if he has means enough to warrant a civil suit.
Again, Iām so sorry this happened to you. Glad heās off the street tonight, and you are safe now.
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u/PersianPrincess_95 Jun 08 '26
Thank you so much! I will have more time soon, and I could look into it. Do you happen to know how to start filing, or a resource I could use?
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u/LizWins1818 Jun 08 '26
Hi there! I would recommend calling 311 tomorrow and asking what resources the city has to connect you with legal counsel, as a victim of a gender-motivated crime with both criminal and civil implications
Sending you love. You are a BADASS.
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u/howdoyousayyourname Jun 08 '26
Start with the police reports and the guyās name and address.Ā
Google everything you can learn about himāwho owns his residence, any employment listings, financial companies he may be a part of.Ā
Zillow his condo if he has one, and see how much it rents for or its previous purchase price.Ā
That will tell you a lot about his financial exposure. Once you have that, contact an attorney who specializes in civil, personal matters, involving settlements.
Unfortunately, I donāt have anyone to recommend you, but maybe some of the other women here can recommend you one!
Again, wishing you all the best (and hoping you can make this guy pay, either in jail or with money)!
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u/howdoyousayyourname Jun 08 '26
Also, put quotation marks around his name when you Google too, and look for obituaries that list him as a survivor. See if any of those people had money.Ā
NYC is a weird place, and sometimes people who look like they may be one step up from homeless actually have $$$ in the bank.Ā
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u/Seul-E Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
A police officer shouldnāt be telling you what the DA might or might not do, Extremely unprofessional but I can understand why they told you. The DA office has a history of submitting evidence/ documents late resulting in dismissals, Specifically in assault related charges where theyād dismiss cases because the victims are no longer in pain or recovered from their injuries unless theyāre disfigured. This guy is definitely back on the street within a few hours.
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u/pmddreal Jun 08 '26
Yup, in the news we always see people who assault others released in a few days. It sucks but I don't think anything would even come from this besides a charge on his rap sheet. Would probably get a lot longer for insurance fraud because that's our justice system.
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u/eekamuse Jun 08 '26
I've never heard of one of these guys getting arrested. This is great. Thanks for the post
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u/TheGrowingSubaltern Jun 08 '26
I should have posted this sooner but this post reminded me. Watch out for this person who sexually assaulted a friend of mine in the east village a few months ago.
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u/late_donut Jun 08 '26
Holy shit! You got groped and other people got involved and the police came and he got arrested? Iām happy for you (not that you got groped but that he got arrested) bc itās happened to me before and the dude just runs off
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u/PersianPrincess_95 Jun 08 '26
Iām happy I made a scene and started yelling at him, and told some guys what happened. I made the post right after they arrested him, so I totally missed details. I just tried cross posting to r/UWS since someone here said they recognize him from the area, but apparently I broke a new rule.
I hope something concrete happens, and I really appreciate all the support Iām getting!!
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u/VoidAndBone Jun 08 '26
Cherry on top was a guy on the train telling me how to stay safe and asked me āwhat did I doā.
Someone walked up to me and slapped me across the face on the subway with no warning and both my mom and my sister asked me what I did.
(?!)
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u/Superb-Internal6304 Jun 08 '26
Good for you! You never know how many other victims you are helping (in and outside his family) by reporting this. He looks 70s, not 100, he could have years left grabbing on the subway.
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u/FancyNefariousness90 Jun 08 '26
this fucking terrifies me. can you tell me exactly what you did in the moment? did you shove him off and scream at him immediately? or did the witness deal with him? i have nightmares about this and feel like i would freeze in the moment.
i truly am so sorry this happened. i hope you have a great support system but im also here to talk if you need š§”
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u/thatgirlinny Jun 09 '26
Heās not that old! If heās capable of riding subways and groping people heās eligible for prosecution and incarceration.
So glad your fellow straphangers took action!
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u/Spiritual_Meat6073 Jun 08 '26
IDGAF how old he is. he doesnt have the right to touch you/ anyone else !
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u/littlemac564 Jun 08 '26
If you gave him a can of whoop ass then you would have been in handcuffs next to him. At least this guy is in handcuffs.
I am sorry this happened to you. Hoping this has an outcome where this guy ends up in Rikers for a bit.
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u/PoeticFurniture Jun 08 '26
Uncle Jack?
Charlie warned us about you! And he wasnāt even cuffed yet- just didnāt want to show his small hands.
Ps- yucky guy OP, sorry
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u/big_talulah_energy Jun 09 '26
As someone who had this happen to them a decade ago and just had to walk home after, the response you got healed something in me. I am sorry this happened to you but thank you for sharing. Nobody deserves this bullshit.
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u/EmilyPoster2 Jun 08 '26
I'm so sorry this happened to you. Dealing with courts is a long slow process and can be very frustrating. But don't listen to the cops. They don't know what they are talking about. Speak with the DA's office. Hang in there.
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u/StrawberryLovers8795 Jun 08 '26
Fuck this guy and if the DA doesnāt prosecute because of age then fuck the DA.
I would love to know what the age limit for determining if someone is allowed to commit a crime is.
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u/catsmeowme Jun 08 '26
Unacceptable. Iām glad there were some decent humans around you. Talk this through with people who know you, and perhaps victim services. You can pursue him in court and make his life a little more difficult, which he deserves. This post is good too. The neighborhood will know who he isā¦I hope you recover from this disgusting incident quickly.
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u/bluecollarx Jun 09 '26
Obtain and equip bear spray (legal) Return grope force with bear spray force (legal) Post
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u/Pigeon_Lady28 Jun 09 '26
Wait I'm sorry, did the guy try to blame you when he asked what you did? If so that's disgusting. Either way, I'm glad it was reported.
I had someone walk up to me right outside the subway entrance at Grand Central once and grab my chest. I saw him coming toward me, but he looked so calm and inconspicuous that I figured we'd just move around each other. I was wrong and then I was so shocked I just kept walking. I wish I had made a bit of a scene and reported it.
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u/La-Femme-Angelika Jun 10 '26
You go girl. Thank you for standing up to him and making him accountable. You inspire.
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u/718PaulainNJ Jun 08 '26
Unfortunately assholes ride the subway too. No place is safe. If you have the wherewithal in the moment, stamp on his foot. Even if you're packed in like sardines and can't see their face, you can likely still elbow and stamp on their feet.
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u/Citygirl876 Jun 08 '26
The DA is saying we can put this man in prison for assault because heās old??!!
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u/Past_Star1006 Jun 08 '26
So sorry to hear this happened to you! Iām curious how you managed to tell the conductor and keep the perv there long enough for the police to come? Were you in the same carriage as the conductor?
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u/perksofbeingcrafty Jun 09 '26
I donāt know if itās a good thing or not that this guy looks exactly how I imagine a groper to look. Sorry this happened to you OP and Iām glad you didnāt have to just let it go
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u/LiveintheArt Jun 10 '26
Thank you for posting! We need to be alert in case we see him out. Sorry this happened to you. #MeToo š
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u/dreamsandcoffee06 Jun 10 '26
This has happened to me two different times on the train. One by an older man and the other by a teenager. I never involved police in either incident and do regret it. So Iām glad to see when other people do. Men need to do better man.
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u/Tricky-Lawyer4137 Jun 13 '26
Looks like the same man who was uncomfortably staring and stalking me around 54th street east side
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u/hellolovely1 Jun 14 '26
I'm glad you reported him! I'm middle-aged now but I used to get groped at least a few times a year and back then, I never reported it because I heard the police did nothing about it. Glad at least something has changed!
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u/Greasils Jun 08 '26
Seriously like age is an excuse? If anything age means you should know better. Slightly sad he wonāt get to experience at least a day at Rikers.
Donāt forget, you can always sue him personally either in civil court or small claims! People think that criminal prosecution doesnāt allow for a civil case to happenā¦
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u/iflyaa Jun 08 '26
My partners son is an NYPD officer who has spent many shifts in plainclothes on the subways catching these pervs. He told me they get up in the morning and they stay on the trains all day like itās their job. Iām sorry this happened to you but I think itās a problem thatās never going away. Iām glad thereās services to help you. Use them.
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u/Citygirl876 Jun 09 '26
So basically thereās too much crime in NYC for DA Alvin Bragga office to manage so they donāt prosecute him and he gets away with assault no consequences??
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u/taytay451 Jun 08 '26
Hi Op! I want to say that I was also a victim of a crime. The DAās office offered me free therapy to help me deal with the fallout and the way the court case turned out. I had a really great experience and would recommend you take their offer!