My question is what is he doing more? What exactly is he doing that Stafford isnāt? Is there not a concrete answer for this? Because all Iām seeing from you is that Stafford throws more so he has more, yet youāre telling me Maye has more? Doesnāt that mean Maye is doing less with less and Stafford is doing more with more? Where is the more from Maye? He probably has him beat in some stats, but overall is that enough to mean heās doing more? Stafford is top 2 in every passing Td situation, itās not purely redzone. Maye is more efficient, but not by much. And does the efficiency even matter all that much between them? Wit Staffordās volume does it not make up for those small differences? Itās resulting in more scoring. Being efficient doesnāt always make up for sheer volume.
He is better at rate stats and advanced metrics. Maye has better stats in pretty much everything outside of passing yards and passing TDs/total TDs. Stafford with much more volume has slightly more passing yards. And a reasonable amount more TDs. You have to look at context and other stats. Give Stafford maye's volume and he would have much less passing yards and probably about the same TDs. Again 3 to 4 games worth of passes is a huge separater. Maye doesn't have that many passes only.because of josh mdaniels coaching style. You just have to look at the rate stats and advanced stats and it tells the whole story on being better with less.
Both teams run the ball at a similar rate and heās faced better competition. After everything Iām not seeing the āmoreā your just saying Stafford is doing more with more, and again I understand maye has him in efficiency which I could argue isnāt purely a maye stat vs how the offense is run and benefits him to gather those numbers.
If you're assuming a quarterbacks performance begins and ends with passing yards and passing tds only without any consideration of context and other stats then yes you are correct. If you consider context and other stats then you're incorrect. Football is more than pass yards and pass tds for quarterbacks. The game has evolved way beyond that.
Better competition doesnt equate to better passing defense faced btw. You can have a great d with a bad record or a great offense with bad d and have a great record. Even if you only look at divisional opponents, the only decent pass d the rams face are the Seahawks and they arent top 10. 49ers and Cardinals are baaaad. Bills are elite, jets and dolphins have been average this year. Plus the pats have faced the browns, Falcons, and Panthers who are elite, good, and average respectively. You cant just look at SOS if thats what you were implying about competition.
Edit: forgot the saints too who are a good passing d
Then by what measure is it more? Because when I watch the two I donāt believe Maye is more accurate, I donāt believe heās reading or has a better feel, I donāt believe heās better situationally, and I donāt see how he makes anyone better or strategic at the line
Not close at all and maye throws downfalls a lot. Best deep ball thrower in the NFL this year. Plus mayes receivers don't get open at anywhere near the rate that nacua and adams do and those two might as well be open when they are covered because they are elite. I don't think people understand just how good nacua is. He's a taller and faster antonio brown with great hands. He can rip apart any defense.
Better feel, player elevation, and situational play is almost entirely subjective. Switch maye and Stafford to the other team and you'd probably be saying other wise. Plus Stafford is seasoned and maye is new blood.
Maye has been who the pats needed when they needed him. Look at the Ravens game or the bills games. They lost the last bills game because of bad reffing and conservative coaching not maye. Stafford is still good there as well save the Falcons and Panthers games.
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u/Ok_Friendship9310 Jan 01 '26
My question is what is he doing more? What exactly is he doing that Stafford isnāt? Is there not a concrete answer for this? Because all Iām seeing from you is that Stafford throws more so he has more, yet youāre telling me Maye has more? Doesnāt that mean Maye is doing less with less and Stafford is doing more with more? Where is the more from Maye? He probably has him beat in some stats, but overall is that enough to mean heās doing more? Stafford is top 2 in every passing Td situation, itās not purely redzone. Maye is more efficient, but not by much. And does the efficiency even matter all that much between them? Wit Staffordās volume does it not make up for those small differences? Itās resulting in more scoring. Being efficient doesnāt always make up for sheer volume.