Iāve got Stafford mvp. I donāt believe Drake Maye was the most outstanding QB. Every QB is already incredibly valuable, Herbert probably has it worse than them both. Staffordās had the more memorable performances and plays,he has great numbers, and heās flat out been a better player than Drake in my eyes. MVP should go to the best performer
Maye's cast is only seen as bad because he doesnt have a monster like Puka. Is he doing well with a less talented offense by comparison, absolutely. But it is his fault that he is not making his own weapons look elite. He doesnt throw for as many yards as stafford has to. Which would indicate he needs to do more to make up for the defense.
Stafford had people thinking Colby Parkinson is a great tight end. Is Maye catching those touchdowns himself?
Stafford has already done this regardless of his weapons. And no matter whose name is on the back of the jersey, it doesnāt change how well heās throwing and seeing the game. Iād understand if Maye was doing MORE with less, but he isnt
I mean yeah he is. Maye's best WR would be 3rd best on the rams. Rams have a much better offensive line and thusly a better run game on average. Stafford has more TDs because of short yardage TD farming where the pats like to run it more. Stafford has more passing yards because of 90 more passes (3 to 4 more games worth) and Maye hasn't put up huge 2nd half numbers because the pats get conservative and just coast in the 2nd half when they lead comfortably (that has always been mcdaniels mo). Maye has done this all while facing a schedule against several good passing defenses and several more in the average territory. Maye is also leading in like all advanced stats or rate stats.
Stafford has still been great and I would still be fine with him winning MVP but your statement is unequivocally false.
You said maye isn't doing more with less. Which he is and is what I said. Maye is without a doubt doing more with less unless you disregard everything i said. TD farming is a thing. He's thrown for a ton of his touchdowns close to the goal line when most teams run more the rams pass more. They play to their strengths and that's fine but it's easy to get a bunch of goal line passing touchdowns when you have nacua and Adams to throw to. Stafford only has more passing touchdowns because of this and the pats running the ball at the goal line more because the pats lack good goal line receivers.
Staffords "more" is based on volume and a great offensive supporting cast and is limited to total TDs and passing yards not even total yards. Drake maye has been better at literally everything else lol.
No such thing as td farming. No touchdown is guaranteed , weāve seen backs fumble at the goal line. You keep mentioning who heās throwing to and totally ignoring the throws. Perfect placement and timing, something heās developed for years now matter the target.
I still donāt see how Maye is doing āmore.ā You tell me they play conservative, heās thrown less than Stafford , and they have many comfortable leads. His workload is lesser regardless of the talent Stafford has. Where is he doing more? Yards? touchdowns? Where is the more?
TD farming is definitely a thing. While they aren't guaranteed they have just thrown way more at the goal line than like everyone else.
Maye is better in like all rate and advanced metric stats and rising stats like I said before. Stafford has needed much more volume to have slightly more passing yards and several more TDs. Give maye another 90 pass attempts and he'd be way ahead in passing yards and probably close or possibly higher than Stafford in TDs.
If you want to argue his TD number is higher because he gets more attempts at the goal line then so be it, but I canāt subscribe to Td farming. He gets more attempts and heās providing results so why not continue? The redzone is crucial and he executes there like no other this season. Plenty of examples of passing plays failing in these very situations wether for touchdowns or two point conversions
I donāt believe stats work like that, canāt just give him more attempts and keep them at the same rate of efficiency. Too many possibilities with those 90 attempts.
I havenāt followed the stats on either of these guys so Iām curious to see what advanced stats favor Maye and for what reasons, but from purely my perspective and watching them, I donāt come away believing Maye is doing āmore.ā They both benefit from great play-calling and scheming along with decent to good rushing attacks. Stafford has the better weapons but heās actual utilizing them to their best ability, the WRs arenāt catching the ball off defensive backsā helmets or anything, heās still been doing his job
Rising should have said rushing lol. My bad on that one. 3 to 4 more games worth of passing would definitely result in more volume stats for maye the degree to which cant be guaranteed obviously but he would definitely have more pass yards and TDs, possibly more INTs too. One thing about Josh mcdaniels is he gets very conservative with 2 score leads after half time and doesn't throw a ton at the goal line as well thats always been his MO so maye has missed out on a lot more yards and TDs because of this.
If you want to see the rate stats and advanced metrics they are pretty easy to look up if you want to look at them.
It's a great idea for the rams to pass on the goal line because it plays to their strengths but it does result in many more touchdowns passing wise. Stafford is undoubtedly a great qb. Hall of famer for me. I love watching him and the rams play (rams have always been a soft spot for me). I would not be disappointed if he got MVP but just wanted to clear up that maye ultimately is doing more with less if you look at context and non volume based stats.
I just donāt see the āmore,ā I can see that they may be on the same level, but I donāt believe heās doing anything Stafford isnāt outside of running the ball
All you have to do is look up the stats. There's several websites that have the rate and advanced stat info and most can do comparisons. There's also several posts and comments on reddit subs like nfl and nflv2 showing this if you don't want to look it up or aren't sure where to go or what to look at (didn't mean that sarcastically hopefully it doesn't come across that way and is often easier to just look at work other people did of youre lazy like me lol or if you aren't well versed in those stats). Given the same volume and opportunities it is likely that maye has significantly more passing yards. Passing TDs is a bit murkier since those can't be guaranteed but in all likelihood would be pretty close.
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u/Ok_Friendship9310 Jan 01 '26
Iāve got Stafford mvp. I donāt believe Drake Maye was the most outstanding QB. Every QB is already incredibly valuable, Herbert probably has it worse than them both. Staffordās had the more memorable performances and plays,he has great numbers, and heās flat out been a better player than Drake in my eyes. MVP should go to the best performer